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Jamie - January 31, 2010 04:44 PM (GMT)
Some quite exciting news today, at least for anyone who can access the UK iTunes store. This Link should send you to listings for twelve Prefab Sprout videos avaliable for purchase, two of which I've never seen before - so chances are you haven't either, at least recently. Thanks are due to Jeremy Stamps for spotting these.

For those without iTunes, or abroad, don't despair - Lee (or imarcopolo from the forums) has spotted that 'Jinski' have uploaded a new video of him/them live at the Sage, featuring the Sprouts' own Wendy. This is on facebook, and you'll find it here.

We've had a late review for the 'Let's Change the World' reviews page, from Rachel Gilbert, during which she points out the similarity of the intro for 'Meet the New Mozart' to the Postal Service's track 'Such Great Heights.' What do you think? Remember though, Paddy was doing his a decade earlier!

And to round things off nicely, we have a new set of tabs for 'Love Will Find Someone For You', deduced by Kev Tinsley and brother john. Best of luck with those!

duffy moon - January 31, 2010 06:17 PM (GMT)
For what its worth I hear no resemblance between New Mozart and Such Great Heights. And I'll happily spend the rest of my days without hearing Such Great Heights ever again...the lack of musical creativity is astounding.

Postal Service seems a very apt band name...utterly mundane, boring etc. etc.

duffy moon - January 31, 2010 06:34 PM (GMT)
I'll just pick up on one thing Rachel mentions in her review...McAloon as a forefather (if you like) of modern indie-electronica.

When I hear the word 'electronica' it definitely fills me with dread...its the sound of people with little or no musical talent fiddling around with synths, sequencers and the like. I think of McAloon as much more of a Stevie Wonder type, a genuinely gifted songwriter who uses synthesizers as a means to an end (to create a lush sound 'universe' to 'project' the song) rather than as an end in themselves (i.e. building a 'song' based on a few bleepy noises that anyone can get with a bit of playing around on a synth).

Now the caveats...Kraftwerk were pioneering the latter approach at a time when synthesizers needed a bit more effort, to fantastic results. And there were others too who I'm less familiar with (Yellow Magic Orchestra?, Jarre?)...I can't honestly say I've heard anything that these days gets called electronica (of whatever kind) that hasn't already been done better twenty or thirty years ago (unless Royksop and Bjork count).


Jamie - January 31, 2010 06:55 PM (GMT)
I think it's the bleeps and bloops...I'm convinced. Try it on headphones.

qmbcole - January 31, 2010 11:37 PM (GMT)
Interesting how Wendy's voice has changed in the interim. I'd like to hear Jinski on a better audio format than I have on my computer; I'm thinking some of my reservations about the music is rooted in the crappy sound I get from my CA speakers.

I'd throw in that the "bleeps/boops" etc aspect of the music is much more attributable to the Demo format than Paddy would eventually have gotten onto tape. TD seems like a much more natural choice for the forefather of electro-indie as far as I'm concerned.

Rhesus Bad - February 1, 2010 02:47 AM (GMT)
For those of us stranded in the States & other places where the content is different from the English iTunes, what are the new videos?

Rivermoving - February 1, 2010 08:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rhesus Bad @ Feb 1 2010, 02:47 AM)
For those of us stranded in the States & other places where the content is different from the English iTunes, what are the new videos?

The videos are "Don't Sing" (the Sprout's first video!) and "All the World Loves Lovers" from its single release in 1992.

Living in Sweden, I can't buy these videos either. So I'm hoping for a generous Brit to share them with us!

rock smith - February 1, 2010 01:04 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rivermoving @ Feb 1 2010, 08:41 AM)

The videos are "Don't Sing" (the Sprout's first video!)

omfg! :o the holy grail!

rock smith - February 1, 2010 01:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (duffy moon @ Jan 31 2010, 06:34 PM)
I'll just pick up on one thing Rachel mentions in her review...McAloon as a forefather (if you like) of modern indie-electronica.


he just needs a douche- bag hair cut and some skinny jeans and winkle pickers.

Jamie - February 1, 2010 01:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rhesus Bad @ Feb 1 2010, 02:47 AM)
For those of us stranded in the States & other places where the content is different from the English iTunes, what are the new videos?

I didn't think of this - I have edited the post so no-one will be disappointed.

Jim_Williams - February 1, 2010 01:57 PM (GMT)
I haven't used iTunes for years, but, having seen the video previews, I'm looking forward to these. :D

ronchito - February 1, 2010 02:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (duffy moon @ Jan 31 2010, 02:17 PM)
For what its worth I hear no resemblance between New Mozart and Such Great Heights.  And I'll happily spend the rest of my days without hearing Such Great Heights ever again...the lack of musical creativity is astounding.
   
Postal Service seems a very apt band name...utterly mundane, boring etc. etc.

seconded (both the lack of similarity and the goddawful postal service band)

if "such great heights" stole from anything, it's the first part of the melody line from this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEwNcnklcsk&feature=related


Jim_Williams - February 1, 2010 02:35 PM (GMT)
The videos for All The World Loves Lovers and Life of Surprises were obviously pieced together with footage from the same shoot. (The former even says "To be continued" at the end.) Wendy's in the same seductive mood throughout, but I wonder how embarrassed she'd be to be reminded of the lollipop licking? :huh:

Meanwhile, seeing the youthful Sprouts in the Don't Sing video is a joy. :D

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Rivermoving - February 1, 2010 06:10 PM (GMT)
Interestingly, the video for "All the World Loves Lovers" begins directly where the video for "If You Don't Love Me" ends, and it leads directly onto the video for "I Remember That". A trilogy of sorts...

Jim_Williams - February 1, 2010 06:20 PM (GMT)
Ah, yes - thanks for clearing that up, River. And with Life of Surprises, it's a quadrilogy.

Jim_Williams - February 1, 2010 10:59 PM (GMT)
The Goodbye Lucille/Johnny Johnny video at iTunes is a different edit than the one most of us know. No doubt for copyright reasons, there are are no Alan Bates/'A Kind of Loving' inserts. Instead...

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Rivermoving - February 2, 2010 08:32 AM (GMT)
Wow, most interesting. The Sprout video collection is getting more complicated and interesting by each day.

In hindsight, though, I believe that the version now available on iTunes is the genuine promo video. Whereas the previous video we saw of "Johnny Johnny" is a fan edit.

joulupukki - February 2, 2010 03:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rivermoving @ Feb 2 2010, 08:32 AM)


In hindsight, though, I believe that the version now available on iTunes is the genuine promo video. Whereas the previous video we saw of "Johnny Johnny" is a fan edit.

There were two versions of Johnny Johnny-video at the time single was released. I remember seeing both of them on Sky channel /Music Box 1985. So the "Alan Bates" one is not a fan edit. I wonder why no one has not uploaded the other version on You Tube.

Rivermoving - February 2, 2010 03:55 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the info, I stand corrected. Intriguing...

Rivermoving - February 2, 2010 03:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jim_Williams @ Feb 1 2010, 06:20 PM)
Ah, yes - thanks for clearing that up, River. And with Life of Surprises, it's a quadrilogy.

And with "I Remember That" from 1993 it's really a pentalogy. They seem to snuggly fit together, these videos...

Jamie - February 2, 2010 05:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rivermoving @ Feb 2 2010, 03:56 PM)
QUOTE (Jim_Williams @ Feb 1 2010, 06:20 PM)
Ah, yes - thanks for clearing that up, River. And with Life of Surprises, it's a quadrilogy.

And with "I Remember That" from 1993 it's really a pentalogy. They seem to snuggly fit together, these videos...

This is getting confusing...would someone like to put these in order and explain the connections, so I can put it on the site. :D

Rivermoving - February 2, 2010 05:13 PM (GMT)
Well, just place the videos in the same order as the singles were released. Thus you will get:

The Sound of Crying
If You Don't Love Me
All the World Loves Lovers
Life of Surprises
I Remember That

Kev Tinsley - February 2, 2010 08:56 PM (GMT)
Just quickly, thanks for the name check on the tabs, Jamie, but all the real work was done by Jaime, Tristara and bro' john. I just pushed it along.

Jamie - February 3, 2010 12:43 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kev Tinsley @ Feb 2 2010, 08:56 PM)
Just quickly, thanks for the name check on the tabs, Jamie, but all the real work was done by Jaime, Tristara and bro' john. I just pushed it along.

Well, pushing it along is important work too!

Are you saying that you did actually compile ANY of the tabs? I may need to change that listing...

Kev Tinsley - February 3, 2010 06:43 PM (GMT)
Jaime gave me the first two lines, Trist a corrected chord for line 2. I then tabbed the rest of the song. Then Brother John tidied that up with some corrections. Team effort.

rock smith - February 3, 2010 07:12 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kev Tinsley @ Feb 3 2010, 06:43 PM)
Jaime gave me the first two lines, Trist a corrected chord for line 2. I then tabbed the rest of the song. Then Brother John tidied that up with some corrections. Team effort.

Don't be so modest Kev,you lot did a great job! Paddy's songs are hard to work out,he's got a really individual and quirky guitar and songwriting style,the songs on Gunman sort of sound simple(one of the ideas about that group of songs)but they have a lot going on and weird chords that only work cos he tunes down a semi tone. Anyway have you played guitar for a while?,i don't think you've mentioned it before..

qmbcole - February 4, 2010 01:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kev Tinsley @ Feb 3 2010, 06:43 PM)
Jaime gave me the first two lines, Trist a corrected chord for line 2. I then tabbed the rest of the song. Then Brother John tidied that up with some corrections. Team effort.

A fine example of Sproutnet at it's best if you ask me.
Tip of my hat to you all

Dante - February 4, 2010 04:07 PM (GMT)
Those of us in America land are anxious to see these videos. I hope someone can figure out a way to get them on YouTube or somewhere else. We would greatly appreciate it.

I simply don't understand in the brave new world of the Internet why record companies or Itunes feel a need to make certain products only available in certain countries. These boundaries no longer matter. I'll still pay more for something I love. I don't care.

Jamie - February 4, 2010 04:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dante @ Feb 4 2010, 04:07 PM)
I simply don't understand in the brave new world of the Internet why record companies or Itunes feel a need to make certain products only available in certain countries. These boundaries no longer matter. I'll still pay more for something I love. I don't care.

I am definitely stealing this thought for the 'Globalisation' module I'm taking this term.

Dante - February 5, 2010 02:20 PM (GMT)
You're welcome to it, Jamie. Glad I could help. Oh, by the way, you've created a magical site. Well done, young man!

Jim_Williams - February 5, 2010 04:37 PM (GMT)
Being your 100th post, Dante, that was a timely message. :D

Jamie - February 6, 2010 03:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Dante @ Feb 5 2010, 02:20 PM)
You're welcome to it, Jamie. Glad I could help. Oh, by the way, you've created a magical site. Well done, young man!

Thanks very much! Praise is always appreciated, though of course I would carry on the job even if no-one visited at all. :D

Stewart - February 8, 2010 11:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jamie @ Feb 2 2010, 06:03 PM)
QUOTE (Rivermoving @ Feb 2 2010, 03:56 PM)
QUOTE (Jim_Williams @ Feb 1 2010, 06:20 PM)
Ah, yes - thanks for clearing that up, River. And with Life of Surprises, it's a quadrilogy.

And with "I Remember That" from 1993 it's really a pentalogy. They seem to snuggly fit together, these videos...

This is getting confusing...would someone like to put these in order and explain the connections, so I can put it on the site. :D

Five singles were released in connection with the 'Life of Surprises' compilation. In order, they were:

Sound of Crying
If You Don't Love Me
All The World Loves Lovers
Life of Surprises
I Remember That

Four of the videos for these songs - the last four - were all filmed at the same session (and hence you'll see the same actors/dancers/sets/effect shots/musical instruments appearing across them all).

Of those four videos, three ("If You Don't Love Me", "All The World Loves Lovers" and "Life of Surprises") were loosely interlinked. The last frame of "If You..." is the opening shot of the "All The World..." video. "All The World..." then ends with a close up of a car registration plate in the rain, and the words "To be continued". The life of "Life of Surprises" video then opens with a shot of a rainy street.

Jamie - February 8, 2010 01:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stewart @ Feb 8 2010, 11:58 AM)
Five singles were released in connection with the 'Life of Surprises' compilation. In order, they were:

Sound of Crying
If You Don't Love Me
All The World Loves Lovers
Life of Surprises
I Remember That

Four of the videos for these songs - the last four - were all filmed at the same session (and hence you'll see the same actors/dancers/sets/effect shots/musical instruments appearing across them all).

Of those four videos, three ("If You Don't Love Me", "All The World Loves Lovers" and "Life of Surprises") were loosely interlinked. The last frame of "If You..." is the opening shot of the "All The World..." video. "All The World..." then ends with a close up of a car registration plate in the rain, and the words "To be continued". The life of "Life of Surprises" video then opens with a shot of a rainy street.

Thanks Stewart, very helpful! So the first and last singles aren't actually connected to the 'story' of the middle three.

Jim_Williams - February 14, 2010 01:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (joulupukki @ Feb 2 2010, 04:36 PM)
There were two versions of Johnny Johnny-video at the time single was released. I remember seeing both of them on Sky channel /Music Box 1985. So the "Alan Bates" one is not a fan edit. I wonder why no one has not uploaded the other version on You Tube.

The version uploaded to YouTube yesterday, by prefabsprouttv, is also the version new to most of us. Lovely quality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPn9IjZd6Ks

Rhesus Bad - February 14, 2010 01:40 PM (GMT)
"This Video Is Not Available"

:(

Jim_Williams - February 14, 2010 02:33 PM (GMT)
Works fine for me (and I've been continuing to have YouTube loading problems). Is it a geographical thing?

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Jim_Williams - February 14, 2010 02:38 PM (GMT)
This might help, Rhesus:

How to watch blocked videos on YouTube

Rivermoving - February 16, 2010 09:04 AM (GMT)
Nice tricks, Jim, but sadly none of them works - at least not for me. I guess the only way to get around the blocking is to change one's IP address.

centrifug - February 16, 2010 03:53 PM (GMT)
Anyone posted this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLYi4Gt-iMI

I read that this one is up on Itunes, but not youtube.. Its amazing!





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