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Jamie - September 8, 2009 02:03 PM (GMT)
The new album is out right now, so you can head off and buy it at your leisure (some links can be found on the bottom right of the homepage.) We will hopefully have chart information up here as soon as it comes in, though I wouldn't hold your breath.

I am going to start a page for 'fan reviews' of LCTWWM, probably called something like 'Your Thoughts.' So once you've had time to digest the album, why not sent me your thoughts (you see the tie-in?) on it via email, with the subject line: My New Album Review. Thanks in advance!

The Mortimor Family - September 8, 2009 05:29 PM (GMT)
I think Amazon should get a shake on & send it to me :angry:

Porky Prime Cut - September 8, 2009 06:13 PM (GMT)
I still really like it, but do you think that maybe Paddy overdid the "it's an illness, I have all these songs written but I cant let go of them" thing in interviews? I worry that he is setting himself up for some ridicule.

It's much better quality soundwise than I even imagined when it was announced that the new album would be 17yr old demos. I feared the worst having heard Glenn Tilbrook's demo's albums. And like someone said in the run up, it's sad that they have only been "baked" in a studio and not given the full works, that could have been amazing, and maybe not - we'll never know. The quality of songs always really shines thru though (i think).

gethomas - September 8, 2009 06:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Porky Prime Cut @ Sep 8 2009, 06:13 PM)
I still really like it, but do you think that maybe Paddy overdid the "it's an illness, I have all these songs written but I cant let go of them" thing in interviews? I worry that he is setting himself up for some ridicule.

I would think most people just feel sorry that a huge talent like that has these issues.

:(

Having just moved to County Durham (and my memory was jogged about PF as I moved to near Witton Gilbert) I wasn't aware of any illness etc. until recently. I had just assumed he had virtually given up. I've been busy buying up all the back catalogue.

BTW, is I Trawl the MHz worth buying?

GreenJeremy - September 8, 2009 07:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (gethomas @ Sep 8 2009, 06:51 PM)
BTW, is I Trawl the MHz worth buying?

Of course it is. It's an album of music by Paddy McAloon.

Kev Tinsley - September 8, 2009 07:06 PM (GMT)
For the title track alone, though I'm 42 never fails to bring a tear to the eye. It's an emotional roller coaster ride - not for the faint hearted, but a real must have.

hotbread - September 8, 2009 07:20 PM (GMT)
Actually, I like the idea of Paddy not caring about production and arrangements. It may be old fashioned or cheesy sometimes, but the songs are still breathtaking, and I personnally don't give a…

(Not talking about LCTWWM, you just can't find it in France, and it couldn't be more frustrating.)

you know who - September 8, 2009 09:31 PM (GMT)
How many bleedin angels can pentecostal paddy get to dance on the eye of a needle?
on my second hearing now, and it feels like being hit repeatedly around the head with a giant talking Cliff Richard birthday card-or attending a Dana concert (that's Dana-the eurovision winning personification of self righteousness -not the Israeli eurovision winning tranny)
Maybe i'll suddenly see the light, or i'll just wake up a convert......bloody hell once you get started with these religious puns, it ain't half hard to stop!

qmbcole - September 8, 2009 10:24 PM (GMT)
YKW, look at the transcripts (or listen to the mega-upload) of Paddy talking to Arnie about spirituality, then come back to the CD. maybe that will give you a different take on it

gethomas - September 8, 2009 10:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kev Tinsley @ Sep 8 2009, 07:06 PM)
For the title track alone, though I'm 42 never fails to bring a tear to the eye. It's an emotional roller coaster ride - not for the faint hearted, but a real must have.

Thanks for the heads up (and GreenJeremy) :)

SnatzoBoy - September 8, 2009 11:15 PM (GMT)
LCTWWM now available to listen to in full on Spotify as of today!

I've only listened to it once right through at the moment (and even then only as background music), but sounds okay pretty good!

Siciliano - September 9, 2009 01:16 AM (GMT)
Wonderful!! Paddy is greater than Mozart!! :rolleyes:

...and I'm still waiting for the mailman to bring me this new masterpiece!! :)

irons1965 - September 9, 2009 08:12 AM (GMT)
Is it me or do the new album remind you of Marvin Gaye's "Whats Going On" at times?...."Earth:The Story So Far" could be "Mercy Mercy Me" maybe??

James L - September 9, 2009 11:39 AM (GMT)
It's too soon to say where LCTWWM sits in the pantheon of recorded works by PS. But I was thinking yesterday that for all his ill health and set backs we've had 4 new pieces of work from Paddy in the 90s. The Gunman gets better with age and the issues with hearing covers of songs that were already known retreat with time. I love Farmyard Cat, I think it's one of his most adventurous pieces of work. The SM acoustic album is a unique listening experience, 'Desire As' is practically a different song. Megahertz part masterpiece part enigma. I'm very glad it exists and enjoy it a lot. The new one is better than Andromeda Heights, and on a leve with Swoon, I enjoy listening to it more than Jordan but it's not quite there with FLPTM or SM yet.

Porky Prime Cut - September 9, 2009 12:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (irons1965 @ Sep 9 2009, 08:12 AM)
Is it me or do the new album remind you of Marvin Gaye's "Whats Going On" at times?...."Earth:The Story So Far" could be "Mercy Mercy Me" maybe??

It's not you. I noticed it too. Still if you're going to benchmark yourself against something, WGO is as good as anywhere to start

Ben69 - September 9, 2009 01:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (hotbread @ Sep 8 2009, 07:20 PM)
(Not talking about LCTWWM, you just can't find it in France, and it couldn't be more frustrating.)

Living in France is no excuse for not buying the new Prefab Sprout CD.

Play.com (based in Jersey) has it for €11.99 including free delivery anywhere in the European Union.

For customers living in the UK the price including delivery is only £8.95.

Meanwhile, cdwow.com (based in Hong Kong) has it for €11.49 including transit insurance, but it seems to be out of stock so you would have to wait a while.

you know who - September 9, 2009 06:13 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (qmbcole @ Sep 8 2009, 10:24 PM)
YKW, look at the transcripts (or listen to the mega-upload) of Paddy talking to Arnie about spirituality, then come back to the CD. maybe that will give you a different take on it

Thanks for the thought qmbcole, maybe i'll do that.

reading transcripts, paddy in conversation about spirituality, sounds too much like having to do research to me, i just want to put the record on and play that speaks for itself-why is life so damn complicated why, why why?
Anyway how come now one else on this site has any serious shortcomings about the album, are you all computer generated auto-messages, am i the only human in some Kafkaesque universe-is this all some test?
Am i in the Matrix? i'm gonna throw myself out of the window-i know i'll be able to fly, i just know this is all a dream!

qmbcole - September 9, 2009 06:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
reading transcripts, paddy in conversation about spirituality, sounds too much like having to do research to me,


You could just listen to the file Jim uploaded- or just take the red pill

or was it the blue?

BTW, is it going to be a Federer/Nadal final in the US open?
predictions?

you know who - September 9, 2009 07:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (qmbcole @ Sep 9 2009, 06:37 PM)
QUOTE
reading transcripts, paddy in conversation about spirituality, sounds too much like having to do research to me,


You could just listen to the file Jim uploaded- or just take the red pill

or was it the blue?

BTW, is it going to be a Federer/Nadal final in the US open?
predictions?

Can i have the pill? Ok i'll listen to the file,

em i reckon the Fedster will make it 6 Opens in a row, it would be good if Nadal got to the final, but i think it might just be Del Potro with Fed in the final.

hotbread - September 10, 2009 08:08 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
Living in France is no excuse for not buying the new Prefab Sprout CD.


Just can't wait for a mail delivery. I'll be in London next week. ;)

irons1965 - September 10, 2009 10:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Porky Prime Cut @ Sep 8 2009, 06:13 PM)
I still really like it, but do you think that maybe Paddy overdid the "it's an illness, I have all these songs written but I cant let go of them" thing in interviews? I worry that he is setting himself up for some ridicule.

It's much better quality soundwise than I even imagined when it was announced that the new album would be 17yr old demos. I feared the worst having heard Glenn Tilbrook's demo's albums.  And like someone said in the run up, it's sad that they have only been "baked" in a studio and not given the full works, that could have been amazing, and maybe not - we'll never know.  The quality of songs always really shines thru though (i think).

Listening to it overall, I find it sounds better in the car than on my Hi fi separates in the house...Got to remember these are demos after all....

Tristara - September 10, 2009 04:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (irons1965 @ Sep 9 2009, 08:12 AM)
Is it me or do the new album remind you of Marvin Gaye's "Whats Going On" at times?...."Earth:The Story So Far" could be "Mercy Mercy Me" maybe??

That's because both songs are based in a chord progression called "Turnaround" : I , VIm , IIm , V7 and I , but Paddy plays IIIm instead of V7 and continues with IIm7 , IIIm7 etc... ETSSF is in key of D

Tristara - September 10, 2009 05:00 PM (GMT)
PS : The Roman numbers are the degrees of the scale

Steve M - September 10, 2009 10:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (you know who @ Sep 9 2009, 06:13 PM)
Anyway how come now one else on this site has any serious shortcomings about the album,

Fear not, you are are not alone. Except for the obvious flaw of being synthizised demos rather than a full band repoduction in all it's glory, I would have to say that so far the lyrics on LCTWWM does not impress much. That is compared to previous "real" albums (not counting anything after Andromeda Heights). But hey, just to hear Paddy's voice anew is simply glorious, isn't it?

you know who - September 10, 2009 10:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Steve M @ Sep 10 2009, 10:17 PM)
QUOTE (you know who @ Sep 9 2009, 06:13 PM)
Anyway how come now one else on this site has any serious shortcomings about the album,

Fear not, you are are not alone. Except for the obvious flaw of being synthizised demos rather than a full band repoduction in all it's glory, I would have to say that so far the lyrics on LCTWWM does not impress much. That is compared to previous "real" albums (not counting anything after Andromeda Heights). But hey, just to hear Paddy's voice anew is simply glorious, isn't it?

yeah, and the album is kind of growing on me i must admit, i know it's stating the bleedin obvious but paddy can certainly write a good tune.

Steve M - September 10, 2009 10:59 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (you know who @ Sep 10 2009, 10:28 PM)
yeah, and the album is kind of growing on me i must admit, i know it's stating the bleedin obvious but paddy can certainly write a good tune.

Amen to that. Also I have to say that what the lyrics lack in cleverness they certainly make up for in ernesty, which maybe is a sign of true development. Or trancendence if you wish...

Siciliano - September 11, 2009 03:17 AM (GMT)
LCTWWM is excellent, indeed!! :rolleyes:

juice - September 11, 2009 04:43 PM (GMT)
My copy was delivered by Play.com on Monday. Listened to it many times this week. On the first listen 4 tracks stood out:- Let there be Music, Ride, Music is a Princess, and Sweet Gospel Music. It was great to hear Paddy's voice. Having listened a few times more, all the other tracks began to grab my attention, and I feel this is a strong album with Paddy trying to make each track a masterpiece. It is up there with "Jordan" and well worth the wait! Meet the new Mozart is I feel the weakest track. Sweet Gospel Music sends shivers down my spine! and goes straight into my top 10 Prefab tracks. Absolutely fantastic! Humming it all the time! To sum up:- Excellent album, with very good CD cover and booklet. I hope it charts!

machinegun Ibiza - September 11, 2009 11:35 PM (GMT)
Just thought of it when I listened to "Music Is A Princess", that It would sound great also if Stevie Wonder sang it. It would fit his voice perfectly I think :P

Boris

Siciliano - September 12, 2009 07:42 PM (GMT)
Let There Be Music, Ride, I Love Music, God Watch Over You, Sweet Gospel Music... are really true marvels!! :rolleyes:

The design of the album is wonderful too!! :rolleyes:

Congratulations to Paddy and let's hope the best is yet to come, as the Grand Old Man said!! :rolleyes:

Doo Wop In Copenhagen... - September 14, 2009 02:47 PM (GMT)
what an excellent album :) :D :lol: :P
some of the tracks would ofcourse sound better if they were played by a whole band, but if I didn´t know that the songs were written 17 years ago, I simply couldn´t tell.
All the songs stand out, imo B)

Baltic - September 14, 2009 07:39 PM (GMT)
I just got my cd today. After a few listens, Ride and God Watch Over You are the standout tracks. Needs more listening...

Jennifer - September 14, 2009 07:45 PM (GMT)
Basically, this is typical of my luck. I join a forum as a longtime fan of a band in eager anticipation of a new album, then the album comes out and it's terrible. "Angel of Love" is worthy of a place in the Prefab Sprout canon. The rest... really, no. Just NO.

qmbcole - September 14, 2009 07:53 PM (GMT)
Not gonna jump on your opinion unlucky Jen , but if I was going to pick my choice for weakest cut from LCTWWM, it would be "Angel of Love". So anyway, I'm wondering what your is favorite PS album before LCTWWM?

Hopefully LCTWWM will grow on you.

Jamie - September 14, 2009 07:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 14 2009, 07:45 PM)
Basically, this is typical of my luck. I join a forum as a longtime fan of a band in eager anticipation of a new album, then the album comes out and it's terrible. "Angel of Love" is worthy of a place in the Prefab Sprout canon. The rest... really, no. Just NO.

Oh Jenny, don't be hasty!

Rae - September 14, 2009 09:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 14 2009, 09:45 PM)
Basically, this is typical of my luck. I join a forum as a longtime fan of a band in eager anticipation of a new album, then the album comes out and it's terrible. "Angel of Love" is worthy of a place in the Prefab Sprout canon. The rest... really, no. Just NO.

Fascinating! I agree with Q, only more so: to me Angel of Love is one of the weakest Sprout songs ever, I can hardly listen to it, and when I do, I can't wait for it to be over. Whereas to me tracks 1-7 are the strongest sequence of songs ever on any Prefab Sprout album. :blink:

Can you say a little more about why the rest of the album is so "NO" to you? I'm glad we're not all just gushing about the new album. Makes it more interesting this way.

Jennifer - September 14, 2009 09:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (qmbcole @ Sep 14 2009, 07:53 PM)
So anyway, I'm wondering what your is favorite PS album before LCTWWM?

Tricky one... probably Swoon for its quirkiness or Langley Park for its perky poppiness. Actually, being a big Thomas Dolby fan, Steve McQueen or Jordan ought to be my favourite. But they're not. Steve McQueen's good, but it's not my favourite - and Jordan I find really overcooked, with too many b-side quality songs and cheesy arrangements (which are probably TMDR's fault).

Jennifer - September 14, 2009 10:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Rae @ Sep 14 2009, 09:17 PM)
QUOTE (Jennifer @ Sep 14 2009, 09:45 PM)
Can you say a little more about why the rest of the album is so "NO" to you?

Well, first of all I've never liked music about liking music, and Paddy's take on that overworn theme does nothing to change my mind. (If he wants to release a single, he'd be pretty much guaranteed to be Radio 2 Single of the Week for any of the songs with "Music" in the title. Whoever picks the R2 SOTW is a sucker for that sort of thing.) And the religious songs are a write-off, and that's me being far more generous about them than they really deserve.

Of the rest, "Last Of The Great Romantics" and "Falling In Love", well... they're just filler, aren't they? On a better album they'd fit in as a change of pace, not a highlight. "Meet The New Mozart" is actually interesting, I would have liked to hear it in a more advanced form, but even on an album of demos it's the one that sounds most unfinished, in a way that seriously detracts from it. "Angel Of Love" stands out as the highlight partly by default, but although it's just a straight love song it's well-realised and could have sat happily on "A Life On Surprises".

Siciliano - September 14, 2009 10:46 PM (GMT)
I think "Let There Be Music", "Ride", "I Love Music" and "Sweet Gospel Music" are four of the most perfect gems of this lost (and now found, thanks God and Paddy!) magnum opus!! :rolleyes:
Brian Wilson's "Smile" is a marvel, of course, but LCTWWM is also pure bliss!! :D
(Well, I must say that "Pet Sounds" is even better) <_<

Is our time on Earth the soundcheck or the show? - it's really a very good question! :)
And of course I also love "Clair de Lune"!! Who doesn't? :rolleyes:

Siciliano - September 14, 2009 11:03 PM (GMT)
Well, I just heard another of Paddy McAloon's marvelous pearls: "Walk on", on You Tube - it's absolutely gorgeous!!! :rolleyes:




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