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'The interspecies challenge'



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 Do You Like Femslash?
 
Do you like femslash?
Sometimes. [ 9 ]  [12.16%]
Yeah, but I like m/m better. [ 22 ]  [29.73%]
Yes, as much as I like m/m. [ 15 ]  [20.27%]
Nope, not really. [ 23 ]  [31.08%]
EEEEW. [ 4 ]  [5.41%]
I like femslash better than m/m. [ 1 ]  [1.35%]
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Miriel
Posted on Mar 27 2004, 06:31 AM


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Am just curious. smile.gif If yes, what pairings? I like anything with Eowyn, and especially enjoy hobbitlass stuff, like Diamond/Estella. It's really too bad there's not more femslash out there.


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Cheysuli
Posted on Mar 27 2004, 09:10 AM


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I don't really like stories about females. I won't even read an actual book if the main character is female unless it has a really interesting plot. However, if there is f/f in a m/m fic, I don't mind; I'll read it then.

Although if anyone wrote a Shelob/female fic, I'd read it since she is my favorite female character. Maybe Shelob/Ungoliant?

I do love the spiders.
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Aeneus
Posted on Mar 27 2004, 03:29 PM


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I'm really one for the femslash, but it needs to have strong characters. I really started on femslash in the Buffy-fandom, so my favorites are anything with Buffy, Faith, Darla or Drusilla (and I've also read some good stuff with Lilah or Kate).
In Tolkien I'll stick with Eowyn, Galadriel or Melian, but I like Arwen as well.
Not that big on the hobbitlasses, I just don't know that much about them.

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Beckyboo
Posted on Mar 27 2004, 03:41 PM


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Nope, don't like it. Don't know why really. I just much prefer m/m.
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LittleMy
Posted on Mar 27 2004, 08:20 PM


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I like Eowyn/Arwen, particularly with Faramir/Aragorn.
I haven't read any hobbit femslash yet. Hmm. wink.gif
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Daisy
Posted on Mar 27 2004, 09:21 PM


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I like it, but I like m/m more. I'm not quite sure why...

<3 Hobbitlass pairings. In fact I think it was you, Miriel, who got me into it. You and Nikki. wink.gif


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Miriel
Posted on Mar 28 2004, 12:19 AM


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In fact I think it was you, Miriel, who got me into it. You and Nikki.


Hee. biggrin.gif Did you see the Estella/Diamond ficlet I posted in my journal yesterday?


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LeiLu
Posted on Mar 28 2004, 08:43 AM


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I like Femslash well enough. If I stumble across an interesting looking story I'll read it, but I don't actively search for it. I am just much more into m/m.
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Lily`s Eyes
Posted on Mar 28 2004, 11:11 AM


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To be honest,I`ve never read femslash.To me part of the appeal of slash is that guys can be a little more emotional.Most women are emotional enough anyway(which in my case means:will cry at absolutely anything blink.gif )
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Aeneus
Posted on Mar 28 2004, 06:30 PM


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But the reverse can be part of the appeal of femslash (a least for me), just as it's fun to see men be a bit more emotional, it's fun to see women get a bit more agressive.
When you read for example Buffy/Faith, most of the time they're busy beating each other up, before they get to the sex.

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Iirima
Posted on Mar 28 2004, 08:23 PM


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Never really been inclined to read it, the most i have read is a little bit of PG stuff, a little with the 'Hobbitlasses' who are just so...well sweet's the wrong word...and then a suggestion on the side of a m/m fic.
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Daisy
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Hee.  Did you see the Estella/Diamond ficlet I posted in my journal yesterday?


I did, but I didn't comment for some...odd reason... It was so lovely. sweety.gif Yum. Yummy yummy yum. I loved it. kiss.gif

I don't know what the appeal is of femslash, but I like it. I suppose I agree with Aeneus on seeing the characters be more agressive. ...Maybe I just like genderfucking... *loves that word*


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Dernhelm
Posted on Mar 31 2004, 09:13 AM


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First slash I ever wrote was femmeslash, so I've got a real soft spot for it. I'm quite a fan of well-crafted femmeslash, esp. when the girls can get as down and dirty (or dirtier) as the boys can.

BTW: Does anyone know of some really butchy LOTR femmeslash? It's really hard to find (esp. since most of the girls wear gossamar gowns rolleyes.gif ). . .


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Miriel
Posted on Mar 31 2004, 03:15 PM


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I don't know of any, but I think that Eowyn/Movie Arwen could have some of that... Movie Arwen did get Frodo at the Fords, and waved her sword around a bit, so I can see that. Yeah, if anybody finds some, let me know too. smile.gif


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Meriadoc_Took
Posted on Apr 1 2004, 01:15 PM


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It's All Right. But not great. I don't read it often unless it has the guys featured!
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GlamorC
Posted on Apr 2 2004, 02:28 PM


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Ahaaa...! Now here is a topic to suit my taste.

So, what's so great in femlash ?
For the blokes (like me), there will always be the "curious material for a peeping tom" -factor. So, even a well-written pwp f/f fic will attract some attention from me. Ha, ha, ha! tongue.gif

But... like everything else, f/f fics which are just clones of each other won't make anyone addicted to femslash, on the contrary.
Any kind of story with good plot, message, interesting themes and lots of originality, whether they are f/f or m/m (or even het) nc-17 or not, will attract readers. As for whether it's f/f or m/m, that can be an extra flavour. Hopefully it's not the *whole* point of the story, but that, too, is a personal preference, I guess.

Allow me to romanticize: *Sigh* Two heavenly beings, shy, uncertain of their feelings towards each other, develop a friendship (that's always nice) and slowly, painfully slowly it turns out to be something more... *sigh*

PG-13 or G f/f fics can have such a sweet innocense about them. And that will make hearts melt all over the floor.

So then! I ask again... what's so great in femslash ?
Strong characters? Well, yesss... or rather, complete charecters. I suppose I prefer "Strong despite weaknesses" (goes for both f/f and m/m), as that usually leads to a happy ending (which are nice). I hope.
There are many kinds of strength. Female characters can have both traditionally feminine strength and traditionally masculine strength... and combinations of everything in between. And the (usually two) heroines usually possess different combinations, making their evolving relationship all the more interesting.

Éowyn has lots of "manly" strength. Hobbit lasses, I suppose, have lots of feminine strength. In both cases, the fact that they all choose to *use* their strong qualities and that they succeed in doing it matters more than the type of strength. (Example: when the ladies are in control of their fates and perhaps more!)

Slash, in general, *is* more exotic than het, it breaks some taboos which still remain, and it offers a chance to explore the characters in new ways.

Ego sic argumentator, again:
So: Slash is more interesting than het. Ergo f/f is more interesting than het.
But: "Slash or het?" is just a personal preference, as some would point out.
Ergo gluc.

About Genderfu... ahem. Genderf***ing... a-ha!

Now that's something, I say! At it's best, genderscrewing allows both sexes to posses the virtues of the other sex. Roughly put, men become more emotionally intelligent than they usually are and women gain more muscle in more sense than one. Crash go the narrow and choking gender roles.
The Finnish TV channel 4 (Nelonen) just showed some reruns of a comedy series called "Ou nou!" ("Oh no!").
It was basically about switched traditional gender roles. Three men (basically acting like women) who are friends with each other, and of which two are already married, live through their everyday life. The two wives also appear in most of the episodes, acting like men.
Since it was a comedy series and the lead charecters were men-turned-women, the show made fun mostly about the charesteristics of women, but also about those of men. The men became over-emotional but also very solidary and supportive to each other, while the women became iron-willed but not that subtle(heh) beings. For the record, one of the "female men" was played by Pirkka-Pekka Petelius. I'm a big fan of his.

In India, feminine qualities in a man and vice versa are considered to be a source of power, not a weakness, btw.

Genderscrewing also gives me a good reason why I glorify women in all kinds of uniforms, fictional (Meg Ryan as Cpt. Karen Emma Walden in "Courage Under Fire", Kate Mulgrew as Cpt. Kathryn Janeway in "Star Trek: Voyager") or even real-life people. Or as Joey from "Friends" would probably say: "Women in uniforms are way beyond HOT!"
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TookishBrandybuck
Posted on Apr 8 2004, 07:06 PM


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In India, feminine qualities in a man and vice versa are considered to be a source of power, not a weakness, btw.


That is so cool!

My answer offers no reason at all. lol. I love femslash! Well, hobbitlass slash, namely. Estella/Diamond and Rosie/Marigold are the pairings that I've been reading. The best kinds are with Merry/Pippin, with Estella/Diamond added in.

I speculate that anyone who isn't attracted to women wouldn't enjoy femslash as much. Seeing as most of general slash fans are women, more of them are into m/m. It's understandable.
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Marylou
Posted on Apr 18 2004, 05:35 PM


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In my opinion nothing can really compare to the love between the boys, but I do enjoy a nice NC-17 ficelt from time to time. Fav pairings are Ewoyn/Arwen and Arwen/Galadriel.
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Lily
Posted on May 1 2004, 07:46 AM


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I sometimes read it, though not as much as m/m. And I would agree, there needs to be more femslash out there!
Hobbit f/f pairings are too rare, most of the femslash i've come across involves elves...
or maybe I just haven't looked hard enough.. tongue.gif
I do enjoy the elfy femslash though biggrin.gif
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Mary Willows
Posted on May 27 2004, 11:01 PM


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Interesting topic!

I actually started out reading only femslash, and did that for a long time.

It was how I found out that slash existed in the first place: I saw an episode of Xena (what else) and then had to search on the internet to see if there were other people viewing their relationship the same way I did. And whoa! Yay! smile.gif There was...

Then I discovered m/m slash... And I think it's easier to make m/m slash good, because there are a lot more well-developed, complicated male characters to slash.
Like, in Tolkien's writing, he doesn't really make his female characters as three-dimensional and interesting as the "guys" - at least in my opinion.

But good femslash is *good* - and please if any of you can recommend some good, long f/f-stories - I'd love to get back into the groove smile.gif
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