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Miriel - March 27, 2004 06:31 AM (GMT)
Am just curious. :) If yes, what pairings? I like anything with Eowyn, and especially enjoy hobbitlass stuff, like Diamond/Estella. It's really too bad there's not more femslash out there.

Cheysuli - March 27, 2004 09:10 AM (GMT)
I don't really like stories about females. I won't even read an actual book if the main character is female unless it has a really interesting plot. However, if there is f/f in a m/m fic, I don't mind; I'll read it then.

Although if anyone wrote a Shelob/female fic, I'd read it since she is my favorite female character. Maybe Shelob/Ungoliant?

I do love the spiders.

Aeneus - March 27, 2004 03:29 PM (GMT)
I'm really one for the femslash, but it needs to have strong characters. I really started on femslash in the Buffy-fandom, so my favorites are anything with Buffy, Faith, Darla or Drusilla (and I've also read some good stuff with Lilah or Kate).
In Tolkien I'll stick with Eowyn, Galadriel or Melian, but I like Arwen as well.
Not that big on the hobbitlasses, I just don't know that much about them.

Aeneus

Beckyboo - March 27, 2004 03:41 PM (GMT)
Nope, don't like it. Don't know why really. I just much prefer m/m.

LittleMy - March 27, 2004 08:20 PM (GMT)
I like Eowyn/Arwen, particularly with Faramir/Aragorn.
I haven't read any hobbit femslash yet. Hmm. ;)

Daisy - March 27, 2004 09:21 PM (GMT)
I like it, but I like m/m more. I'm not quite sure why...

<3 Hobbitlass pairings. In fact I think it was you, Miriel, who got me into it. You and Nikki. ;)

Miriel - March 28, 2004 12:19 AM (GMT)
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In fact I think it was you, Miriel, who got me into it. You and Nikki.


Hee. :D Did you see the Estella/Diamond ficlet I posted in my journal yesterday?

LeiLu - March 28, 2004 08:43 AM (GMT)
I like Femslash well enough. If I stumble across an interesting looking story I'll read it, but I don't actively search for it. I am just much more into m/m.

Lily`s Eyes - March 28, 2004 11:11 AM (GMT)
To be honest,I`ve never read femslash.To me part of the appeal of slash is that guys can be a little more emotional.Most women are emotional enough anyway(which in my case means:will cry at absolutely anything :blink: )

Aeneus - March 28, 2004 06:30 PM (GMT)
But the reverse can be part of the appeal of femslash (a least for me), just as it's fun to see men be a bit more emotional, it's fun to see women get a bit more agressive.
When you read for example Buffy/Faith, most of the time they're busy beating each other up, before they get to the sex.

Aeneus

Iirima - March 28, 2004 08:23 PM (GMT)
Never really been inclined to read it, the most i have read is a little bit of PG stuff, a little with the 'Hobbitlasses' who are just so...well sweet's the wrong word...and then a suggestion on the side of a m/m fic.

Daisy - March 28, 2004 08:50 PM (GMT)
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Hee.  Did you see the Estella/Diamond ficlet I posted in my journal yesterday?


I did, but I didn't comment for some...odd reason... It was so lovely. :sweet: Yum. Yummy yummy yum. I loved it. :smooch:

I don't know what the appeal is of femslash, but I like it. I suppose I agree with Aeneus on seeing the characters be more agressive. ...Maybe I just like genderfucking... *loves that word*

Dernhelm - March 31, 2004 09:13 AM (GMT)
First slash I ever wrote was femmeslash, so I've got a real soft spot for it. I'm quite a fan of well-crafted femmeslash, esp. when the girls can get as down and dirty (or dirtier) as the boys can.

BTW: Does anyone know of some really butchy LOTR femmeslash? It's really hard to find (esp. since most of the girls wear gossamar gowns :rolleyes: ). . .

Miriel - March 31, 2004 03:15 PM (GMT)
I don't know of any, but I think that Eowyn/Movie Arwen could have some of that... Movie Arwen did get Frodo at the Fords, and waved her sword around a bit, so I can see that. Yeah, if anybody finds some, let me know too. :)

Meriadoc_Took - April 1, 2004 01:15 PM (GMT)
It's All Right. But not great. I don't read it often unless it has the guys featured!

GlamorC - April 2, 2004 02:28 PM (GMT)
Ahaaa...! Now here is a topic to suit my taste.

So, what's so great in femlash ?
For the blokes (like me), there will always be the "curious material for a peeping tom" -factor. So, even a well-written pwp f/f fic will attract some attention from me. Ha, ha, ha! :P

But... like everything else, f/f fics which are just clones of each other won't make anyone addicted to femslash, on the contrary.
Any kind of story with good plot, message, interesting themes and lots of originality, whether they are f/f or m/m (or even het) nc-17 or not, will attract readers. As for whether it's f/f or m/m, that can be an extra flavour. Hopefully it's not the *whole* point of the story, but that, too, is a personal preference, I guess.

Allow me to romanticize: *Sigh* Two heavenly beings, shy, uncertain of their feelings towards each other, develop a friendship (that's always nice) and slowly, painfully slowly it turns out to be something more... *sigh*

PG-13 or G f/f fics can have such a sweet innocense about them. And that will make hearts melt all over the floor.

So then! I ask again... what's so great in femslash ?
Strong characters? Well, yesss... or rather, complete charecters. I suppose I prefer "Strong despite weaknesses" (goes for both f/f and m/m), as that usually leads to a happy ending (which are nice). I hope.
There are many kinds of strength. Female characters can have both traditionally feminine strength and traditionally masculine strength... and combinations of everything in between. And the (usually two) heroines usually possess different combinations, making their evolving relationship all the more interesting.

Éowyn has lots of "manly" strength. Hobbit lasses, I suppose, have lots of feminine strength. In both cases, the fact that they all choose to *use* their strong qualities and that they succeed in doing it matters more than the type of strength. (Example: when the ladies are in control of their fates and perhaps more!)

Slash, in general, *is* more exotic than het, it breaks some taboos which still remain, and it offers a chance to explore the characters in new ways.

Ego sic argumentator, again:
So: Slash is more interesting than het. Ergo f/f is more interesting than het.
But: "Slash or het?" is just a personal preference, as some would point out.
Ergo gluc.

About Genderfu... ahem. Genderf***ing... a-ha!

Now that's something, I say! At it's best, genderscrewing allows both sexes to posses the virtues of the other sex. Roughly put, men become more emotionally intelligent than they usually are and women gain more muscle in more sense than one. Crash go the narrow and choking gender roles.
The Finnish TV channel 4 (Nelonen) just showed some reruns of a comedy series called "Ou nou!" ("Oh no!").
It was basically about switched traditional gender roles. Three men (basically acting like women) who are friends with each other, and of which two are already married, live through their everyday life. The two wives also appear in most of the episodes, acting like men.
Since it was a comedy series and the lead charecters were men-turned-women, the show made fun mostly about the charesteristics of women, but also about those of men. The men became over-emotional but also very solidary and supportive to each other, while the women became iron-willed but not that subtle(heh) beings. For the record, one of the "female men" was played by Pirkka-Pekka Petelius. I'm a big fan of his.

In India, feminine qualities in a man and vice versa are considered to be a source of power, not a weakness, btw.

Genderscrewing also gives me a good reason why I glorify women in all kinds of uniforms, fictional (Meg Ryan as Cpt. Karen Emma Walden in "Courage Under Fire", Kate Mulgrew as Cpt. Kathryn Janeway in "Star Trek: Voyager") or even real-life people. Or as Joey from "Friends" would probably say: "Women in uniforms are way beyond HOT!"

TookishBrandybuck - April 8, 2004 07:06 PM (GMT)
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In India, feminine qualities in a man and vice versa are considered to be a source of power, not a weakness, btw.


That is so cool!

My answer offers no reason at all. lol. I love femslash! Well, hobbitlass slash, namely. Estella/Diamond and Rosie/Marigold are the pairings that I've been reading. The best kinds are with Merry/Pippin, with Estella/Diamond added in.

I speculate that anyone who isn't attracted to women wouldn't enjoy femslash as much. Seeing as most of general slash fans are women, more of them are into m/m. It's understandable.

Marylou - April 18, 2004 05:35 PM (GMT)
In my opinion nothing can really compare to the love between the boys, but I do enjoy a nice NC-17 ficelt from time to time. Fav pairings are Ewoyn/Arwen and Arwen/Galadriel.

Lily - May 1, 2004 07:46 AM (GMT)
I sometimes read it, though not as much as m/m. And I would agree, there needs to be more femslash out there!
Hobbit f/f pairings are too rare, most of the femslash i've come across involves elves...
or maybe I just haven't looked hard enough.. :P
I do enjoy the elfy femslash though :D

Mary Willows - May 27, 2004 11:01 PM (GMT)
Interesting topic!

I actually started out reading only femslash, and did that for a long time.

It was how I found out that slash existed in the first place: I saw an episode of Xena (what else) and then had to search on the internet to see if there were other people viewing their relationship the same way I did. And whoa! Yay! :) There was...

Then I discovered m/m slash... And I think it's easier to make m/m slash good, because there are a lot more well-developed, complicated male characters to slash.
Like, in Tolkien's writing, he doesn't really make his female characters as three-dimensional and interesting as the "guys" - at least in my opinion.

But good femslash is *good* - and please if any of you can recommend some good, long f/f-stories - I'd love to get back into the groove :)

mano mardenna - May 28, 2004 07:31 PM (GMT)
personally i much prefer m/m, but i don't mind two hot ladies getting it on... :D
but only if it's well written, mind, i've read far too many crappy f/f fics...maybe i'm just looking in the wrong places?

Conner - June 24, 2004 05:20 PM (GMT)
umm....YEAH. Arwen/Eowyn. Especially if they want to come to my apartment. Do you think they'd like me and Dorian?

Sanson - June 26, 2004 01:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (GlamorC @ Apr 2 2004, 08:28 AM)

Allow me to romanticize: *Sigh* Two heavenly beings, shy, uncertain of their feelings towards each other, develop a friendship (that's always nice) and slowly, painfully slowly it turns out to be something more... *sigh*

PG-13 or G f/f fics can have such a sweet innocense about them. And that will make hearts melt all over the floor.


*Sigh* Sooo romantic. *Sighs again*

Manveruwen - July 13, 2004 01:00 PM (GMT)
After I started reading m/m-slashstories I became curious about femslash and I have to say that I like it, especially Arwen/Eowyn. But I don´t like it that much like reading about the boys ;)

Denise - July 18, 2004 08:39 PM (GMT)
mmm yeah, sometimes I like it. Elanor/Eowyn was good ^^. But I prefer m/m more. And specialy Hobbit on Hobbit ^^, :P

seremela_arcanenel - August 6, 2004 05:23 AM (GMT)
Femslash is alright, I guess, but I don't go out of my way to read it. If something is really angsty, it doesn't matter what the pairing is, cause I'll read it. So if its got angst, I'd love it!!
But yeah, I'd read femslash.
<3 Sybil

Nénhelin - August 6, 2004 07:43 AM (GMT)
I don't mind it...I'm bound to write one one day. I prefer m/m obviously, but as I said, I don't have any revulsion against f/f. My main complaint is that most f/f slash that I've come across is really...just rubbish. Horrible stories that make me not want to read f/f slash, but if anyone has any recommendations for some actually worth my timw, I'm all ears.

tigerlily_grubb - August 6, 2004 06:07 PM (GMT)
Sometimes.

I suppose it really depends on who it's about and how well-written it is.

Amaethiel - August 19, 2004 06:42 AM (GMT)
It really does depend upon how it was written. I don't read many PWP femslash fics though, unless I'm in the mood (thats pretty much when I will read any type of PWP though, be it ladies or gents :pant: :P ). That's probably because I've never as of yet found even a NC-17 femslash fic that is both well-written and offers a good plot. (If anyone has- from any fandom!-, please please please kindly post a link!!)

I will really only otherwise read a femslash fic if the plot is very very good, or if it's exceptionally well-written. I do prefer the romantic, sometimes fluffy type of femslash if I'm going to read it at all, but then it's ironic how it mirrors my preferences in real life as well. I'm a Bi female but I'm not equally attracted to both sexes- at least not for the same reasons, being attracted to females in more of a romantic sense and males for more of a physical one, at least in general.


QUOTE (Sanson @ Jun 25 2004, 07:51 PM)
QUOTE (GlamorC @ Apr 2 2004, 08:28 AM)

Allow me to romanticize: *Sigh* Two heavenly beings, shy, uncertain of their feelings towards each other, develop a friendship (that's always nice) and slowly, painfully slowly it turns out to be something more... *sigh*

PG-13 or G f/f fics can have such a sweet innocense about them. And that will make hearts melt all over the floor.


*Sigh* Sooo romantic. *Sighs again*


Yep. It's just beautiful. That is exactly what is appealing to me about fluffy femslash, and with real life f/f relationships.

Aeneus - August 19, 2004 05:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Amaethiel @ Aug 19 2004, 07:42 AM)
(If anyone has- from any fandom!-, please please please kindly post a link!!)

If you know the Angel/Buffy fandom and like a good long plot I can recommend: The way, way back by Liz_Estrada (R; Kate/Faith)


Aeneus

Amaethiel - August 19, 2004 06:09 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Aeneus @ Aug 19 2004, 11:49 AM)
QUOTE (Amaethiel @ Aug 19 2004, 07:42 AM)
(If anyone has- from any fandom!-, please please please kindly post a link!!)

If you know the Angel/Buffy fandom and like a good long plot I can recommend: The way, way back by Liz_Estrada (R; Kate/Faith)


Aeneus

Yup. Thank you thank you!! :)

MaReZiA TelMiNar - June 16, 2005 08:47 AM (GMT)
Yeah, but I like m/m better.

you mean Yuri? ^_^ i didn't read it that much because i enjoy m/m... hot guy/sexy guy :blush: WAH-HA-HA and i also could read cute girl/beautiful girl

Zatanna - June 16, 2005 08:08 PM (GMT)
I generally don't go looking for it, but upon finding out that the song played during the Houses of Healing scene in ROTK was sung by Liv Tyler, I looked rather enthusiastically for Eowyn/Arwen femmeslash.

Pretty much the only other fandoms I've ever read/looked at/thought about for femmeslash is Teen Titans, Justice League, and Harry Potter, whereas I'll m/mslash pretty much any fandom.

China Rose - June 19, 2005 10:31 AM (GMT)
I love femslash :smitten: but I often find it hard to find any in the fandoms I love. I spend a lot of time in the King Arthur fandom and I struggle to find any good Guinevere femslash. :( In LOTR I do enjoy a good Eowyn/Arwen story but alas I haven't found a lot of it but I continue to search.

I also adore m/m slash and write m/m fic but oneday would love to write a f/f story. :D

MaReZiA TelMiNar - March 4, 2006 08:57 PM (GMT)
i don't like femslash that much... but it's alright to read rate PG-13... but no more than that... okay... i'm biosexual... but i can't... really going with femslash!

Merevindur - March 4, 2006 09:21 PM (GMT)
I do read femslash and slash in general, as I am Bi. :biglove:

China Rose - March 5, 2006 02:24 AM (GMT)
As I mentionedlast year I like femslash and I'm bi too but also love m/m slash and write it...maybe I just like fan fic :think: :P :D

Merevindur - March 6, 2006 03:27 PM (GMT)
I would like to see some of your femslash, China Rose. Which pairings do you like the most? I like Arwen/Eowyn.

Nessa - March 6, 2006 05:03 PM (GMT)
I find fem slash alright, as long as it has a good story line to go with it. I find pwp fics really hard to get into, but then again that can be the same for m/m fics as well. Truth is I havent really come across many f/f fics. I read one a friend had written for another fandom, which i found really good but it was only PG13 so not very explicit. I think I need to try out a few more fem slash stories before I know how much i like it.

Cho - March 8, 2006 05:58 PM (GMT)
Yeah, femslash is alright, though I don't read it much. And if I read it, only Hermione/Ginny from HP. I don't realy like the women in LotR, at least not enough for real femslash. And they take away the men from each other! :P
I've written a femslash fic (Ginny/Pansy Parkinson. I know, weeeeird). It's NC-17, but *so* bad :P




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