View Full Version: Club nationalities

FMNorthAmerica > USA, Canada, & Bermuda Data Issues > Club nationalities


Title: Club nationalities
Description: Canadian clubs in mainly U.S. leagues.


SaintsCanada - April 24, 2010 10:47 AM (GMT)
I have a question. What are the problems people have found when trying to set club nationalities for TFC, Montreal, Vancouver to Canadian?

My guess is that one possible positive would be the club being more open to hiring Canadian staff (including as manager).

But what are the reasons people prefer not to change the nationality? I remember problems in the past, but can't remember what they were specifically.

looknohands - April 24, 2010 07:04 PM (GMT)
Changing TFC's messes up the salaries of dev players- they were making something like $-833 a year for me. Don't know what would change with Montreal/Vancouver, other than newgens actually being Canadian and not American.

SaintsCanada - April 25, 2010 02:42 AM (GMT)
Okay, I've been testing.

For Vancouver and Montreal (and also the 7 PDL teams), it makes all non-Canadians, including Americans count as foreign players.

However, if nation is set to American, all Americans and Canadians count as domestic (which is how it works irl, I believe).

FM seems to recognize all players from the club "nation", and from the nation in which the stadium is geographically located as domestic.

The same seems to apply to Puerto Rico Islanders and Bermuda Hogges, and also the Welsh professional clubs playing in England.

Probably the same situation for AS Monaco and Calcio San Marino, etc, etc, etc.

This is actually a great piece of forethought and coding by FM.

Also, it seems that the same applies to staff nationality preferences. For example, I have all USL clubs set to U.S. nationality, but the Canadian clubs seem to create mostly Canadian newgen staff (at game startup, if you tick the add key staff feature), and they also seem to prefer Canadian managers when hiring.

So, basically, setting their nationalities to U.S. is problem-free.

themodelcitizen - April 25, 2010 09:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (SaintsCanada @ Apr 24 2010, 09:42 PM)
So, basically, setting their nationalities to U.S. is problem-free.

The only problem, I've found, is that the game won't recognize them as "Canadian" in the CCL group stages if their nation is set to US. This creates a seeding issue where 2 American teams usually end up in the same group.

naxself - April 30, 2010 03:05 AM (GMT)
Newgen nationalities are, I believe, based on the stadium location. So since Vancouver's stadium is in BC, they will create Canadian players in their academy.

The problem, for me, is TFC. Changing it to a Canadian team thoroughly screws everything up (at least in my DB). I'm not sure why and I've tried just about everything to fix it. But, since it only happens to TFC, I've a sneaking suspicion that some goofy MLS rules were hardcoded for no apparent reason (really, nothing should be that hardcoded... everything should be editable... but that's another rant for another time).




* Hosted for free by InvisionFree