Thank you Erowid for posting these:









On the other hand, I also heard Crow{OZ} was a great sport, which I am very pleased to hear, you may gain a little bit more respect just yet my friend.

anyone make a video?

looks like it would have been a good match to watch.

Here are some demos from my pov. We should of had an obs guy doing demos though.

http://www.thelandofoz.net/scrimss/ReV_vs_OZ_CrowOZ_PoV.rar

You can tell I panicked durring some parts. Old age and lack of playing... :lol:

In future scrims, it will be required that all players who play record demos of their gameplay. That's how base does it, and it's how we should too.

Hey Hydro you heard wrong, it seems like your looking for a reason to hate.

Ya, it was a great game. Almost everyone were great sports and I had tons of fun. I also remembered why I used to have so much respect for some people. I hope others got the same from it. I also agree with Crow's future requirements.

Here is my video, I would say the same as Crow, a few times, it looks like I'm running around like a chicken with its head cut off, boosing into shit and stuff, just tryin to go as fast as I can. :lol:
http://www.mediafire.com/?e9m3ps9417c9y57

Nasty, Hydro sort of heard right, unfortunately, as I was the one Jesus threatened to kick, but it was about asking about Ars' HM claim, not the match. They can falsly claim someone cheats, but if I ask about I'm the one starting drama... Same ol bullshit...

He also is right on about Crow's sportsmanship. I was very impressed, and was reminded that even though there is a bunch of bs going on, a part of me still loves the guy.

As far as Hyrdo goes, you guys said he could not play in the scrim, even though he's on our team. If I were him, I would go out of my way to be an asshole to all of you, too.

And when I tried to read the oz forum today, (because I hear there is some talk about us cheating), I was reminded of this, so I'm gonna talk some shit now too. ;) I wasn't going to talk any shit, because most people were very good sports, but after being reminded of this and getting threatened last night by Jesus, you guys deserve it.


You would think Jesus would be more used to losing to me at this point and would be a better sport about it. He reminded me of a fuckin spoiled ass little kid that didn't get his way.

However, your inability to deal with losing is your issue, not ours.
So, Viva La Revolucion!! There's a new sherriff in town motherfuckers!!!!
And next time if you try to pick our line up, we will be happy to let you forfeit. ;)

We didnt pick your line up, it was a good game. In ability to deal with losing a game? You must not realize you're talking to a Seattle Seahawk fan here. We lost no big deal, no one is tying to take a win from anyone. There was talk of suspect HM, I was told you've seen a copy of it. So far, there hasnt been any denying of it.

Well, sir, you did pick our line up. You, and by that I mean [OZ], decided Hydro could not play, and that is not for you to decide. You have plently of people on your team that have done less than honorable things in the past, but we never said they could not play.

Please don't mistake me for saying all of oz is poor sports, because that is far from true. Some people were poor sports and some things were said, by both sides, that disappointed me.

As you can see, I am unable to read what has been said on your forum, but I am denying it. I will admit it looks like he was hming for 2 seconds, out of all the demos I have seen, so I will not hate on anyone that thinks he may have been. I have also heard that Griever has said, after looking at his own demo, that Sabin was not hming. Again though, everything I know is hearsay, because according to you guys, I shouldn't be able to read your forum because I am a faggot.

I am open to all evidence, and anyone proven to be hmin will never be in a scrim with me again, either on your team of mine.

All this shit just fuckin sucks and reminds me why I hate clans and had never joined one. The scrim was fun as fuck, but the aftermath is nothing but a fucking headache, and I'm not blaiming anyone in particular for that.

I don't understand why no one can scrim without bitching about HappyMod. Ars doesn't have HM.

Yes, he did have it one time, because that was because he downloaded a Tribes that had it and he didn't know the difference. But now he has the clean version.

Accusing each other of HappyMod is just phony and stupid. Can't anyone scrim anymore without bitching about stupid shit?

That's like if I said all of {OZ} is HappyModding. Y'all wouldn't like it would you? Then stop bitching about other people and take care of your own damn business.

The games almost dead. Let it go.

I don't have any idea bout someone saying Hydro couldnt play. Last time I did check this was a scrim against ReV, and you're not on the roster. No one had issues with you playing. In any of the talks about the scrim there wasn't anyone saying hydro couldn't play.

Well, Nasty, you are misinformed, sir, and I have mad respect for you, so I do not want to argue. Please discuss that with your clan. I know that at least Crow had said he could not play and obviously he is your leader, so it is assumed he speaks for everyone.

While, yes, I was allowed to play, it was not without a snide remark from Jesus.

Well Jerry, unlike you, Hydro is a troll to the heart, and I wont play any scrim type games with him. You make valid points, and argue on them, while Hydro simply gets pleasure out of trolling. He doesn't make points of his, he uses other peoples points to stir shit up. That or he makes up lies, only to piss people off. Not only that, but the dude is a bitch.

We didn't let Ecko play in every pro scrim we had, and it's no different with Hydro. He's a piece of shit, and will be treated as such. If you ever read any of our personal convos on xfire, the guy sounds just like Ecko.

Sigh...Don't get me wrong, Crow, I understand your perspective. However, I could say simliar things about some oz.

I was a part of a pro scrim where Shift, one of your members, admitted to picking me and then throwing the match, just to piss me off. There is no place for that in competitive matches.

So, there is plenty of gheyness to go around. It would be nice if we could put all the bs aside and just enjoy the games. However, I understand that is difficult because some people seem to have a hard time being mature, on both sides.

Goddamnit, I hate this crap.

Anyway, I wouldn't dare tell you Shift couldn't play on your team. If I didn't want to play with him, I would sit out, not require you change your lineup. So, that's why I don't appreciate you expecting us to do it with Hydro. Maybe it could be my turn to ask you to be the bigger man?

I hear you, but I still have zero respect for Hydro. I doubt that will ever change. To put it this way, I have respect for everyone, even you, Hydro and Ecko are the only two players that I don't have respect for. That has to say something...

And I can promise you S_hift took heat from that move he did in that match. I was on the other team, and saw the whole thing. I think you even told him to pick me, but he passed. :lol:

I let you smurf in the scrim, but I wasn't going to let Hydro do that. It would be one thing if he was actually part of the clan, but he's not.

As long as u all had fun.

-;;-

I'm not mad man.

And good post bong.

You aren't mad, yet you use a condescending tone to me?

I'm sorry I won't deepthroat you to get your respect back. You know what's sad? I legit apologized to you and tried to be a nice guy. But you had to be a douche. I have screenshots, wanna see that too?

You've said you were sorry to me many times... Nothing new..

Nothing new, yet I logged into a server and did it, right?


But I guess again you jump to conclusions, hmph. Seems it started with the comment,

Again, who is the one that is angry? Bro I don't trip over you, I can keep your name out of my mouth, cept the moment I hear the word Pussy I think of you. Not cause you think you get some, but because that is who you are. Quit being an asshole all the time and I would quit being an asshole to you.

Prime Example: S']['U and Jerry and SAND.

:lol:

Nice a :D, shows your maturity.

Jesus man and you preach maturity to me. I try to have a civilized conversation with you and you act like you laugh instead of show a weakness. Good job bro.

You pull up one quote about me, I could quote this whole topic pretty much showing low levels of maturity on your part.

You're a troll man, look at how you treat people.. It's sad..

I could pull up examples of you treating many people with no respect at all. You have no right to even use the word maturity. You have posted 400+ times on this forum, I bet I could search your posts, and find more trolls in your post count, than I could in my 1000+ post count.

Speakers for the ReV in this thread need kindly shut their blowjobs :roller:

Jerry, that's cool you want to help, practice, and scrim with the ReV but your refusal to join us is a borderline insult. Which is fine really, because for as smart as you are you lack a certain depth of social intelligence which constantly puts you at odds with people and would have a very real chance at compromising the ReV's reputation..

Hydro, I wouldn't have let you play. From the beginning you were a liability and if Frank had run it by me I would have said no. You untagged and retagged a few times after you were let in, so that right there pretty much told me you are were not ReV.

OZ did not pick our lineup.

And yes, in future games players will be required to demo and there will be an open BYOO (bring your own observers) policy. Neither clan may be insulted if the other brings observers to observe in first-person-mode, which requires a certain level of admin doesn't it? and that's just the way it's gonna be.

But yeah bong, it was a blast! a couple of people got their pride hurt and others have ran their mouths in the aftermath, all of which is very unfortunate and resonates with both sides, but all in all I don't think the experience was anywhere near negative enough to discourage players from participating in the 1-29-12 Sunday scrim. I got my demo of all 3 games if u wanna watch from my PoV, but I was on D pretty much the whole time so it's just a lot of me spamming FF doors :wave:

Again, it was a good game, I'm glad the ReV could pull out our win (which was a concentrated team effort- soloist needn't continue patting themselves on the back) and I hope we get another win on the 29th!

Once again, Scud, you have a complete misunderstanding of reality. Based on our private conversations, it seems to be a recurring theme for you.

For the record, it was you who said something along the lines of, "why are you still wearing the tag," the first time I joined the BR server after the scrim, which prompted me to take it off. I then thought all Rev should vote on whether they wanted me in the clan, as many have begged me to join, but I don't know how everyone feels on the subject. I have gone 5 years without ever wearing a tag, if you can't understand that the process may take some time, and that I want to consider everyone's opinion on the matter, then I don't know what to tell you. Also, it's not a lack of social intelligence, it's more that I don't care to compromise in order to get along with people here anymore. I guess years of lies and abuse have done that to me.

You have become a very good player and I respect that, however your repeated misunderstanding of the game and the years of history behind it are dissappointing. I will not speak for Rev again, and I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers by doing so.

If I were you, I would not recommend allowing players to wear a tag, but not letting them scrim. That has never sat well with me, whether is was OZ, <!> or Rev doing it.

I hope you recognize and understand just how important I was to your victory, maybe the next one without me will help you understand better. I would never say something like this if I didn't feel attacked by you. Just so you know, when people tried to say I was the all star, everytime I said, even in private, we were a team and did it together. I do commend you for not sacrificing your morals in order to get a win, no matter how misguided I think they sometimes are.

Maybe OZ has an opening on their scrim team. :lol: Just Kiddin :lol:

Yeah, sorry Crow, you never change though. You've always been like this. I'm just not silly enough to hide who I really am so people don't get the wrong idea.

I'm me, and I'm PROUD to be me, can you say the same?? Guess not, you two faced punk. You tell me one thing then the next day you tell me a different story, bro, honestly I got something here for you.

Hope this opens your eye punk, or I get a nice laughing face cause you know you ain't got shit to say.


I was SO tired of hearing about Legendz! Ask how many people actually like that shit, they only play it cause they don't have the master server! You know what's actually funny though? Legendz consists of many different player's codes, but instead you put your name by it. It's cute though, I mean I appreciate you being an asshole and all.

But you know what's really sad bro? I don't have to waste my time everyday watching EVERY forum cause honestly, idgaf what you say about on those new BR forums, trust me I get to hear ALL About it, from various people. And guess what else, you little punk. You act like everyone's gives a fuck what you have to say. No one does.

I'm sorry to inform you sir, but your credit card has been shut off! Not really. But that's the only thing I can think of. You realize if Kigen's shit was copyrighted you'd be going to jail for copyright infringement?! :D

Or how about this one; When you try to be all cutesy, thinkin' your all bad ass, look at your past, can you accept it? Or do you use video games to run away from it... ;) I use video games as a pass time cause I ain't got much else to do for like 30 minutes then I go chill with some friends or whatever I gotta do, where are you?

You tell me you haven't coded in a year, bull shit bro. You just told me your coding Legendz 4.5 or whatever the fuck it is. Dude, you need to stop lying, it makes you look worse.

In the end of the rant I can say this, at least I know who I am, I'm proud of who I am, and I am not a lying asshole. I'll say what the fuck I think at the exact time, although sometimes it may be wrong, at least I don't lie about it later and say, "Oh that didn't happen." Or change my story. Cause I don't have to think up my stories. They are just there, truth and all. How I perceived the moment.

Learn some lessons bro, grow up already, I've asked you to like 50 times. If your so mature, stop fuckin' respondin. I guess you aren't though.

Don't worry, I'm not angry either...

Your quote says it all.

I finally found the time to watch your demos, Crow, which I would advise doing to anyone interested in getting better at this game.

Man, you were fuckin shit up, dude. I guess what surprised me was how much of our d you killed. Nice work, really. I was wondering a couple times how our d dissapeared so quickly and now I know, lol.

I gotta say though, my favorite part was at the end, when you guys said shit like, whoa, we just lost to them? and Ya, WTF?

:lol: :P :lol:

Didn't you know about us, son?



Well, you do now. ;)

:wave:

Guess I need to show up and apply the sit down spray.

Damnit, does that then mean that I will have to show up, with whatever spray trumps your spray?

Ok, well I found some and ordered it. I just hope it arrives before Sunday.

lol to this

and jerry i didnt ban you...

*edit-i dont even see you on the list lol

Jesus! U dont hang out no mo... Come back and share ur opinions with us more often.

Is this drunk talk, or is it supposed to make sense to me, cause it doesn't? :huh:

Thats cuz i have been playing other games and kinda fed up with drama but somehow get thrown into it


let me help you jerry...

lol to the posts and remarks in this thread..

jerry I DID NOT BAN YOU(pulled a stu there)

you are not on the list of the bannies on the oz forums

did that help jerry?

I never said you banned me, dumbass. I posted the ss, obviously I was banned. You can call me whatever names you like, even Stu, but that won't change the facts.

As far as the scrim #2 goes, my spray worked, oz didn't even show up! :lol: I knew we beat them last time, but I didn't know we demoralized them...

So, we decided to play some pick up games. Jesus agreed to be captain against me for 2 games, but he demanded first pick both times. I don't know how that makes sense, even in his warped mind... Anyway, his team also had an extra guy both times, yet, after the games were over, he still have the nerve to say faggot comments like, "Jerry, I'm 2-0 against you..."

For the record, loudmouth, we would have beat you on rollercoaster, (despite it being 4 on 5 and you getting the first pick), except Sabin, my first pick, dropped towards the end, and we could no longer hold the lead when it was 3 on 5.

I personally always knew oz was afraid to play unless their team was stacked, but thanks for finally proving it to everyone else. ;)

this was right after you posted a SS of you being banned from the oz forums. To me seems like you accused me of banning you from the forums. I guess i must have taken the wrong way but it sure sounds like it to me...

The SS's of last night

Hmmm when was it ever 3v5? And whos fault is it that you picked a team where they dropped. We gave you every player that came into the server. And we have always done where the first person to team change gets the first pick.

Maybe next time not pick the same people?

Ggs!! I lost 2 of the 3 D:

It was Evil that banned me, I have said that all along.

Jesus, I was mistaken, it was 4 on 6, not 3 on 5. You can clearly see that in the ss of the rollercoaster game.

It's just fuckin pathetic you make gay ass comments everywhere, like, "Erowid and I went undefeated, great teamwork"

Ya, because you fucking demanded 1st pick every game, or you wouldn't play. And you had an extra player on your team each game.

You always brag, like things were even, when they weren't. It pisses me off youre such a fuckin coward, and you mislead people to believe stuff. Then when you lose, you say shit like, "Oh next scri mwe will play for real." But you weren't even man enough to get a team to show up this time. The reality is oz is a joke, and only cares to play when they know they will win.

You are a fuckin pussy dude, what kind of grown man demands first pick every game? Then when you win unfairly, you just brag the whole time and rub it in the losers' faces. You're not a good sport at all. You obviously have no faith in your game, since you refuse to play against me on any type of level playing field. So, just go back to your oz forum and talk about how you were undefeated, even though you acted like a fuckin spoiled little bitch that had to get his way, or he wouldn't play.

That's 2 weeks in a row with you, I think I'm done participating in any type of scrim with you, you are just too much of a coward. We play those to have fair, fun games, not to have little spoiled ass grown men demand they get their way every game.

If, you ever grow a pair of nuts and agree to play a 1 on 1, I'll be happy to show you just how bad you are at Tribes.