Title: The villagers
Description: in detail
Klaske - August 27, 2009 10:02 PM (GMT)
In the category Fanfic research (Also titled, I need to find a hobby), I've been screencapping the villagers. I'm not even done with the song "Belle" yet, but already I've got 100 screencaps with over 100 recognizable villagers.
And things I've discovered about the village:
- We have 2 sets of triplets
- We have 3 butchers
- Also 3 people selling bread.
- We've got a woman with a magic basket
- Besides the tavern there is a cafe
- According to the sign 'Puissance', which is French for 'officials', there are officials.
- There is also a sign 'L'argent', which means 'the money', so there must be a bank.
Flower shop, tobacco shop, hat shop, book shop, bakery, butcher (3), poulterer, fish monger, cheese shop
SELLING FROM A CART:
Pumpkins (2 or 3), jar, pot and pans, bread, fabrics
Chimney sweep, shepherd, miller (I see people carrying grain sacks, so there must be a miller)
And lots of villagers I've never even noticed, or never studied closely! See a few of them below!
And I wonder who this is...
Nikki - August 27, 2009 10:07 PM (GMT)
I'm pretty sure the last one is the Nutcracker Prince. No question about it.
And also, I'm quite intrigued by the couple in the line above. I mean, they don't appear to be peasants, you know? And he's carrying a sack... could it have money? Maybe he's going to the bank?
I'm pretty sure I've never known anyone in my entire life who would have the patience to do something like this, but I actually admire you for it :P
P.S.: Loved the magic basket detail :P
Klaske - August 27, 2009 10:10 PM (GMT)
Aaaaaaah! The nutcracker prince, that could be it.
About the couple, there are a few more who look more fancy than the other villagers, but I think this is a rich noble man living in the neighbourhood and taking his wife on an outing, I think they go peasant-spotting and throw money at the poor people.
samoaphoenix9 - August 28, 2009 12:12 AM (GMT)
Wow...I'm impressed. I never realized the town was this big! So much for "provincial." I wonder if "L'Argent" indicates a silversmith rather than a bank, though. Hopefully the songs "Gaston" and "The Mob Song" won't be as bad because there are recurring characters like the guys from the tavern.
TrudiRose - August 28, 2009 12:57 AM (GMT)
I, too, am intrigued by the fancy-looking couple! Slumming for the day, perhaps? Or maybe the sack means he's a tax collector, like the captain of the guard in "Robin Hood."
There's another set of triplets??? Can you give us a screencap? I'm very curious!
Damian - August 28, 2009 03:20 AM (GMT)
I'm very confused by the fancy couple - she's practically wearing Victorian style clothing! How did she get that?
I also really like the little kid who looks like he's hiding something behind his back...I wonder what that is.
Klaske - August 28, 2009 06:32 AM (GMT)
The other triplets are still babies, but with three babies of the same age... I would say they are triplets.
I don't think the little boy is hiding anything, cause he's mother is standing behind him (or at least, the woman I suspect is the boys mother), a cap a second earlier:
And here's a cap of another more fancy dressed lady, who we only see from the back, but how she wears her scarf and the feather on her hat... I would say fancy lady! :-)
TrudiRose - August 28, 2009 02:52 PM (GMT)
Oh! The "six eggs" lady - of course!
And LOL that they need three butchers in that tiny village - I guess Gaston keeps them working overtime with all the dozens of dead deer he brings home every week!
Klaske - August 28, 2009 03:45 PM (GMT)
The 'six eggs'-lady... 1 woman with 5 children... that makes 6 eggs. Would she give her babies eggs as well, then she needs exactly 6 eggs and can we then conclude that she doesn't have a husband, or at least not one that eats at home? ;)
The third butcher by the way, also sells fish... It is of course possible that it's a family business with three stores in the village :P
On the other hand, The French know 2 kinds of butchers, one that mainly sells pork-products (Charcuterie) and the other one mainly sells beef-products (Boucherie). On the pictures below, the first is for sure a boucherie, the second one, I think is a charcuterie, because it sells sausages... and the third one, has to make up his mind!
fridamoonbeam - September 1, 2009 03:35 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I can't help but think Belle took a look at the "six eggs" lady and thought "Hmm, I think I'll be avoiding that as long as I can..." LOL!
Yes! I love the woman who hits her husband with a rolling pin for checking out that chick! See? Belle wasn't the only spunky one in town :P LOL
LuvMiTux - September 8, 2009 05:57 AM (GMT)
Refering to the lady with what...:math: six babies is it?.....her uterus must have been annihilated after that. She must have been the Nadia Suleman of her time! :lol:
Mike0908 - February 26, 2010 03:47 AM (GMT)
Change of topic, but still about the villagers.
The Enchantred Christmas & Belle's Magical World were Midquels so you never saw any of the villagers after the movie.
If you think about it from their point of view, Belle is a strange girl who reads books, and Maurice is eccentric, maybe a little crazy. Then Gaston tries to marry her and she rejects him several times. Gaston's the town hero, and everyone may wonder why she refuses to marry him especially the three triplets who adore Gaston. Then Belle disappears and Maurice mentions a Beast kidnapped her. They assume he's crazy and throw him out.
Near the end, Belle proves to everyone the Beast is real by using the mirror. So Gastion riles the villagers up by telling them the Beast will come attack the village, as they all join Gaston in stopping the Beast. They attack the castle but the enchanted objects eventually drive them all away including LeFou.
Then they're never heard/seen from again. And the end where the Prince and Beast kiss and dance is most likely all servants except for Maurice of course.
So I'd always wonder what happened to the villagers once they returned home? The Beast was still alive and Gaston was missing. Then eventually someone would find Gaston dead. Now would the villagers return to the castle to get revenge for their hero Gaston's death, move away, or try to move on with their lives in the town?
TrudiRose - February 26, 2010 05:08 AM (GMT)
There's no way the villagers would attack the castle to avenge Gaston's death. The only reason they even got up the courage to attack in the first place was because Gaston made a big speech urging them into a mob, and because he was leading the attack and they had faith in his ability to kill any beast. Without him, they wouldn't have the courage or the will to take the initiative; and if the Beast was powerful enough to kill Gaston, they'd certainly think they didn't stand a chance against him.
The other issue is that presumably the Prince ruled the kingdom after that, and everyone would know he was living in the castle. So they wouldn't attack the castle where the Prince lived.
The real question, to me, is what kind of story the Prince put out, as far as where he'd been all these years and what happened to the Beast. Or did he just ignore the existence of the Beast and pretend it never happened? In that case, the villagers would probably think the Beast was still out there somewhere - no longer in the castle, since the Prince had moved back in, but out there roaming the woods somewhere. Scary for them! Or, maybe they'd think that Gaston DID manage to kill the Beast, but fell to his death in the process (if they found his body) or was mortally wounded (if they didn't).
Either way, they would get on with their lives, and over time it would just become a scary story to tell on dark nights around the fire.
BatBImagination - February 26, 2010 12:31 PM (GMT)
Something I've wondered of late...why did the villagers need to storm the castle? I know Gaston wanted to make a big scene...here I am I'm going to kill this big monster and bring back his head! But why did he get the villagers to come with him?
I mean, here's this guy who is idolized by the villagers. He's fearless (or so it seems until he's about three seconds from being dropped off the roof), he's strong, he's an expert hunter ("No beast alive stands a chance" against Gaston). I don't think they knew about the place being populated by animated objects that were going to throw a monkeywrench into their plans. It was probably assumed that the Beast was the only inhabitant (I don't think very many people would choose to live with a Beast, and if they did think other people there they probably assumed them to be in the dungeon and therefore unable to defend the castle). Basically, they probably weren't counting on Gaston being outnumbered and needing them to fight off anyone that would defend the castle.
So why did they need to go in the first place? After all, Gaston can handle any creature on his own according to popular belief, right? I wonder if it ever occurred to anyone to stop and ask why this top notch hunter/town hero needed their help? I mean, obviously it didn't, but if you think about it, the fact that he took them along instead of going off alone to save the town from this creature, kinda flies in the face of the macho-tough-guy who can handle anything image that the villagers idolize him for.
TrudiRose - February 26, 2010 03:25 PM (GMT)
I figure there were two reasons: 1) He might need help getting into the castle - i.e. chopping down a tree and using it as a battering ram, and if there WERE any minions guarding the Beast, the villagers could fight them off while he went after the Beast (which was in fact what happened), and 2) He wanted an audience to see how fearless and amazing he was. This was going to be his biggest triumph ever, a story to be told for generations to come, so everyone should come see it.
samoaphoenix9 - February 26, 2010 08:07 PM (GMT)
There's also the whole "mob mentality" thing. Since the IQ of a mob is equal to that of its dumbest member, any suggestion by a leader will pretty much be followed without question or a whole lot of thought. Even if it didn't make sense for the mob to follow Gaston (and Trudi has offered some good reasons), if Gaston suggested it, they'd go. And Gaston wants lots of people to witness his triumph over the Beast who's going to come and kill their children. (Another example of mob mentality here: if the Beast were going to "come after the children in the night," then wouldn't he have done it before? It's not like his castle is that far from the village if the villagers can get there in a night. But if Gaston says it, then it must be true.)