Swine Flu hits, Many cases in my area

The old flu bug is in the air. Many schools in Oklahoma have a 20% absence rate because of , what is being called swine flu. Local clinics and doctor's offices are being swamped by people seeking relief. The first round of vaccinations where given last week. I know many people that have come down with it and it is a lot like the regular type A influenza. It takes you down for about 3 days and it is pretty much all over. Although there have been three cases that where terminal, it doesn't seem to be as bad as the hoopla would have it and I decided that my family and I are still not going to take the vaccine which is reported to contain mercury. I don't trust it and I know many that the regular flu shot wound up making sick, so as for me and my house we are going to depend on the LORD and I am thinking of keeping my kids out of school the rest of the week just for good measure.

For those that are worried about the swine flu, it seems to only be affecting younger people and children (ages 5-49). The older folks seem to have enough immunities built up in them that it is not hitting older people as much. But as a precaution for anyone that doesn't want to take the swine flu shot, you need to be taking vitamin C & D everyday as it helps the immune system to ward off the flu. That was the advice that I heard from a doctor on the news. Here in my family we had our regular yearly flu shot about a month ago, we get them every year. We take vitamin C & D each and every day to help our immune system. The regular flu shots contain a dead virus that as far as I have heard will not make you sick. I think the swine flu shot contains a live virus that is questionable.

It's very important to keep your hands clean after contacting objects outside your home also. We keep small bottles of alcohol based hand cleaner in all our vehicles and sometimes I keep an even smaller bottle in my pocket. When we go into a store or any other place and touch a buggy or anything that someone else might have touched, we wash our hands with the cleaner to make sure we didn't pick up any flu germs. I have noticed that a lot of public places in my area is keeping hand cleaner for customers to use also and one place we visit even has disinfectant wipes to wipe down the buggy handle before using that.

James.
Just wondering how bad it was in Alabama?

GB, we have had several deaths here from the swine flu, not many maybe in the 5 to 8 range number of people for the entire state. I think the death rate here hit people that had a low immunity. Most of the cases here have been at schools and younger kids. One school nearby had about 300 or more students out one week when it hit there. We have had small kids at church that have had the flu, but I don't know if it was swine flu or the regular flu. Everyone here in my state has been advised to not send any kids to school or other public functions until their fever has been gone at least 24 hours if they had the flu.

The question for me is, how do I know that it is the swine flu and not the regular flu?

My wife had a flu shot last week (not the swine flu)and is sicker than all get out this week.

Not sure I should bother because I seem to be coming down with what she has.

I am not going to get the H1N1 shot because I use the military clinic and would have no choice about what type of vaccine I would get. Besides, Their hours suck and I would have to take time off from work. Can't afford the 'low cost health care'.

ah, we have the answer to that, Herb.

per our Military family information network:

I also have a couple of pdf documents, if you wish them emailed to you.

I know the above is more than you probably asked for, but some of it may be helpful.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/sick.htm gives you the symptoms:

As far as the swine flu here in WI - it's hitting pretty hard. We had a few deaths early this year, but only about one so far this fall.

BUT, I just heard of one of the local schools closed due to about 25% of the students calling in sick this week.

This old cheesehead has had several bouts of bad bugs in years past so we're taking the gamble and not getting any shots. Sounds almost like you're sick as long with the shot from the shot, as actually being sick with the bug.

I just guess the media is out to scare us over something else - why don't we have 'red alerts' ....yellow, orange and whatever color they want to throw in there to keep us all knowing how and where the swine flu will hit us! I'm with you Gobblerblaster, while I'm down there "duck and covering" I'll be saying a little prayer!!
I got a an email from a friend some time ago, that said an unpeeled onion in every room of your house will 'absourb' the flu virus. Sounds crazy, but I would just soon try it as not!! I just love the fact that there is no 'scientific proof'!

I had reported a number of swine flu deaths here in my state, but my numbers were wrong. yesterday on the local news it was broadcast that we have had 17 deaths so far in my state. And then yesterday I found out that one of our church members has the swine flu but is being treated for it.

So far they've been telling us the people who have died had underlying health issues.

Wednesday night on the news it was reported that a healthy 5 year old girl died from the Swine flu.

She was only sick for two days and walked into the hospital with her parents and got worse quickly from there. The virus attacked her heart and she died.

Read the story here

I didn't know a flu virus could attack your heart.

My brother told me he saw on the local news that a healthy 26 year old woman got the "regular" flu shot and with in 10 days she was suffering from an irreversable condition called Dystonia.

Story link Be sure to watch the video too.

I don't know if this happened to her because of additives they use in the shots or it was just the dead flu bug they use, but there's a preservative you've probably heard of called "Thimerisol" that a lot of parents of children with autism believe to have been caused by it. Childhood vaccines contained thimerisol until some time in the 90's. Now they don't use it EXCEPT in the flu shots.

I just recently became aware that you can ask for "thimerisol free" "regular" flu shots for yourself and your children. They say they are mainly using the thimerisol free shots for children BUT you do have to ask for it.

I called Walgreens Pharmacy and asked if they had the thimerisol free shots available and they did. I'm very sensitive to a lot of medications so I got one of the thimerisol free "regular" flu shots a couple of weeks ago.

I heard a doctor on Fox say they also have the thimerisol free "Swine" flu shots.

It's such a tough call on whether or not to get the Swine flu shot. I got the regular flu shot because I am very susceptible to the flu and I get very bad respiratory problems with it. Several times I thought I would be one of the ones who die every year from the flu. I haven't gotten sick since I began getting them three years ago. After watching the video about that poor woman I don't know what I'll do.

This post has been edited by legitlinda on Oct 16 2009, 11:22 AM

I remember back in the 70's there was a big flu scare and everyone was told they should get vaccinated. I went down to the Department of Health with a girlfriend of mine and we stood in line outside and they vaccinated us with one of those air guns.

The next day the vaccines were pulled off the market because people were dying from it.

That's why I never got another flu shot again until three years ago.

I remember it vividly. What I didn't remember was that it was a Swine Flu shot!

60 Minutes episode on youtube

That incidence of Swine flu didn't spread beyond Fort Dix, New Jersey where it began.

This one is already an epidemic.

This story below says that if you were born before 1957 you MAY already be immune.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...oryId=113446539

BUT.......According to the CDC it's unlikey that we're immune.

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/pub...tion_qa_pub.htm

Oh, what to do....who to believe?

Sounds like quite the dilemma LL. I wouldn't tell anyone that is highly susceptible to the flu, not to take the shot. My main problem is when they want to start making it mandatory for citizens or even school children. I have seen a lot of case with the influenza A vaccine, making a lot of people sick after the vaccination was given. I also am very weary of anything that has had as little testing and experimentation as the H1N1 vaccine. The Government is overstepping it's boundries by requiring anyone be vaccinated for anything, in my humble opinion. Just more of the same old nanny state ideology.

I agree GB. I don't like the idea of the shots being mandatory either. I'm not one who goes along with everything the doctors say either. I have to fight off having a panic attack when I get these stupid shots, or even new medications because I tend to have reactions to a lot of meds. I can't even take my diabetes meds because I have allergic reactions to them. Believe me when I say I go home and look everything up and question them when I need to. It doesn't make me a very popular patient either. I told my doctor I got the Swine flu shot in 1976 and she said I was confused, there was no Swine flu in 1976.

I'm hoping I have immunities because I was born in 1956 and because I took that shot back in 1976. So as it stands right now I'm not getting the Swine flu shot. But I really worry for my grandkids and all the other little ones. That 5 year old girl who died was from my elementary school district. So sad.

Well it appears that it is true, no crisis will go to waste as long as this administration is in power. Looks like the DHS secretary has now become the Swine Flu Czar. I wouldn't be surprised to see a nationwide,mandatory immunization order soon.

Obama: Swine flu a national emergency

Oct. 24, 2009
Associated Press
US President Barack Obama declared the swine flu outbreak a national emergency and empowered his health secretary to suspend federal guidelines at hospitals and speed up how infected people might receive treatment in a disaster.

The declaration that Obama signed late Friday allows Health and Human Services chief Kathleen Sebelius to bypass federal rules when opening alternative care sites, such as offsite hospital centers at schools or community centers, if needed.

Hospitals could modify patient rules - for example, requiring them to give less information during a hectic time - to quicken access to treatment, with government approval.

The declaration, which the White House announced Saturday, allows HHS in some cases to let hospitals relocate emergency rooms off-site to reduce flu-related burdens and to protect non-infected patients.

Administration officials said the declaration was a pre-emptive move designed to make decisions easier when they need to be made. Officials said this was not in response to any single development on an outbreak that has lasted months and has killed more than 1,000 people in the United States.

It was the second of two steps needed to give Sebelius extraordinary powers during a crisis. On April 26, the administration declared swine flu a public health emergency, allowing the shipment of roughly 12 million doses of flu-fighting medications from a federal stockpile to states in case they eventually needed them. At the time, there were 20 confirmed cases in the US of people recovering easily. There was no vaccine against swine flu, but the CDC had taken the initial step necessary for producing one.

"As a nation, we have prepared at all levels of government, and as individuals and communities, taking unprecedented steps to counter the emerging pandemic," Obama wrote in the declaration.

He said the pandemic keeps evolving, the rates of illness are rising rapidly in many areas and there's a potential "to overburden health care resources."

Because of vaccine production delays, the US government has backed off initial, optimistic estimates that as many as 120 million doses would be available by mid-October. As of Wednesday, only 11 million doses had been shipped to health departments, doctor's offices and other providers, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The US government now hopes to have about 50 million doses of swine flu vaccine out by mid-November and 150 million in December.

The flu virus has to be grown in chicken eggs, and the yield hasn't been as high as was initially hoped, officials explained.

Swine flu is more widespread now than it's ever been. Health authorities say almost 100 children have died from the flu, known as H1N1, and 46 states now have widespread flu activity.

Worldwide, more than 5,000 people have reportedly died from swine flu since it emerged this year and developed into a global epidemic, the World Health Organization said Friday. Since most countries have stopped counting individual swine flu cases, the figure is considered an underestimate.

A swine flu emergency huh? I wonder why we haven't had obama put in place a murder emergency? There has been millions upon millions of babies aborted and murdered than swine flu deaths. Oh, I forgot, obama likes abortions, so there's no problem there with him!

For myself, they will have to run me down and knock me out to give me a swine flu shot as I am not getting a vaccination that has only been tested in someone's laboratory. And I sure don't trust those talking heads on TV telling me how safe it is. Anyway, this swine flu is not as bad as they make it out to be. A friend of mine at church had it, went in got some Tamiflu<sp?> and some antibiotics and it was all over with in 2 days and back to normal.

My idea of a national emergency is what we have running this country!

Yes James, I'm with ya. They will not get me or my family to take the vaccine either. This is ludicrous to put out this vaccine without further testing and as you and many others have pointed out, this swine flu is not the emergency they are trying to get us to believe it is. Heck, I remember the influenza A epidemic a few years back, it was a lot worse than this has been so far and they weren't talking about it every night on the news and closing schools then. I still wonder what they are setting us up for? Did you know that the technology is in place to implant a computer tracking chip with a hypodermic needle? Not that , that's what this is but, eventually it could lead to that. I no, I no, I got my tin foil hat right here next to me.
Whatever anyone thinks, this is just another example of an overbearing Government that will do anything to get more power over us and we had better beware.

Hi LL & GB,
2% of the US population have a heart valve disorder called mitral valve prolapse. Because I experience symptoms, I was tested, then diagnosed. The majority of people with it have no symptoms and never realize they have it. That's dangerous because any kind of infection that passes thru your body via the blood pumps thru your heart valves and can infect it. I have to take antibiotics just to have my teeth cleaned because plague has icky bacteria which is too risky to let go thru a heart with MVP. Once the heart is infected, known as endocarditis, a heart transplant is about all that can be done. So, the heart is far more susceptible to infection than most of us can imagine.

I got the regular flu shot 3 weeks ago, but my doctor said I should not risk the swine flu shot. The fact that she knows the full situation of my heart and prescribes the rhythm control and antibacterial meds, etc., yet says NO, don't get this one , says plenty to me.

vickie, thanks for posting that info. My wife also has mitral valve prolapse and she has to take antibotics before doing work on her teeth. I didn't know about the swine flu shot interring with the heart that way though, so I will be sure to let her know that she shouldn't get the shot. The problem as you state is that the government is not taking medical conditions like that into consideration. They have declared an emergency when it might lead to a more serious medical condition if you follow their advice.

I heard on the Radio this morning that, when they ask Michelle Obama if her children had received the swine flu vaccination, that she replied '' no because they are not in the age group at the most risk". Do as I say not as I do? The hypocrisy continues.

Hiya Vickie ,

Thanks for letting us know what your doctor said about not getting the shot because of mitral valve prolapse. My son has it too.

Typical, 1 size fits nobody, government approach.

My wife went to the doctor today to get her yearly checkup. She asked about getting the swine flu shot and he advised that neither her or myself should get one.

The mass hysteria over this virus is causing people to line up hours in advance to get the limited amount of vaccinations. They had about 7000 individual doses yesterday at a local junior college and about 15000 people showed up to get them. As for us, we'll stick to prayer, vitamin C, Elderberry and Echanacia.

Guess who's getting H1N1 vaccines before those that are pregnant, elderly, health officials, and just about anyone else???

PRISON INMATES

YEP, that makes a whole pile of sense....

AND, guess who else gets the vaccine before our AMERICAN public that needs it????

TERRORISTS @ GITMO

WHY ON EARTH DO PRISONERS HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN THE AMERICAN PUBLIC!!!

THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!!

CW, what we're seeing is a preview of what obamacare will be if it gets passed... medical rationing!

Medical rationing of swine flu vaccinations continue as Wall Street and Wall Street companies and CEO's get vaccine before hospitals can get it. The MSM media spent about 20 minutes talking about this latest government rationing of swine flu vaccinations this morning on the boob tube.

We are definitely getting a preview of how a government run health care will be run. Socialism has begun now in this land!

One of my granddaughters came home from school with it, on a tuesday. Not a major problem. She is 8 and had a fever and felt like crap for 3 days, by monday she was fine and went back to school.
Although my wife has all 5 girls there, every morning and afternoon, and a 6th girl that is a friends daughter, none of the rest of us have had it. The girl was at our house all day, every day, she was sick.
Yeah, we all take a multivitamin, plus B complex, C and D.
Don't forget to take the Vitamin D, there are a lot of resources that claim that D helps with all flu's.

Well folks, it was just announced that many of the cases thought to be swine flu, where actually type A influenza and the Rhinovirus and not H1N1. I am very suspicious that the government purposely was inflating the numbers to get people used to just trusting and obeying without questions. Don't be surprised if they still insist on mandatory vaccinations for this trumped up flu strain.

Obama Administration Launches Deceptive Swine Flu Propaganda Blitz

President Obama and his top health officials are engaging in a major public relations effort to divert attention away from whether its swine flu vaccine is effective and safe by focusing attention on whether there is enough of it to go around. And the media is cooperating fully.

Increasing numbers of scientists and doctors are issuing harsh criticisms of the government’s plan to vaccinate virtually the entire U.S. population with a poorly tested vaccine that is not only ineffective against swine flu, but could cripple and even kill many more people than it helps.

The CDC’s public relations campaign has been running “scare” ads that portray swine flu as a full-blown “pandemic” responsible for snuffing out countless lives. But scientists and health officials throughout the world have called the governments claims unjustified and deliberately misleading.

What International Health Expert Thinks of Swine Flu Vaccine