The shooting at Fort Hood, Will America please wake up

I thought this definitely deserved it's own thread. I have been watching this develop and as I heard the story break, my first thoughts where that this could be another case of Muslim infiltrators in the Military carrying out another terrorist attack against our forces. So far this appears to be the case. I will hold my conclusions until the full story comes out but, meanwhile we should be in prayer for the fallen and their families.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572305,00.html

While we are waiting for the Press conference, I would just like to add that I remember a little incident in Afghanistan near the beginning of the war where a Muslim U.S. soldier fragged some other troops there. Since then, I have always wondered if it wasn't a security risk to have Muslims in the military. As I think we are about to find out, Muslims ;whether they are American born or immigrants, can not be trusted and for the most part, will at some point turn on us when they feel they can cause the most mayhem and loss of life. I said it before and I'll say it again. Islam is not a religion but, a death cult and the sooner we realize this and face who the enemy is , the better off we will be.

My heart goes out to these Families that lost their Soldier before they even deployed.

This is a TERRIBLE tragedy for them.

May God Bless and wrap His hands of strength around them.

This post has been edited by Culture Warrior on Nov 6 2009, 06:19 AM

When the professor friend of Obama was a complete axse with the police that responded to a report of someone breaking into a home. Obama had some serious charges on the police.

When this shooting happened Obama didn't want to accuse anybody. Was it Obama learning a lesson or was it because of the perp was a muslin and we know how Obama feels about Muslins?

Just finished watching the Press Conference. General Cone did not say much except that apparently there was only one shooter and that previous reports of him being killed where false. He said that Major Hassan was shot and is in custody and in the hospital in stable condition.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=9007938

There is one brave young lady officer.


This is purely speculation by the "cousin" of the perp

This whole thing stinks smell of terrorist activity......just calling the spade as I see one....

Moral of story, Muslim's cannot be trusted especially in the military as this has already happened once before. And it will continue happening as long as our leaders place trust in people that want to kill us if we don't convert to their idea of what they think is religion. I still remember the chants of the Muslims when the Trade Towers went down on 911. I have never trusted them from that day since and I doubt that I ever will. As bad as I hate to say this, if I see them mingling with large crowds, I keep my hand on my forty five just in case it might be necessary to use it.

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This islamist is a coward. It takes no courage to shoot at unarmed GIs. My opinion, is that he has trained to commit his 'religious' terrorism for years. The reason he didn't want to deploy is that he would have had to face armed and ready soldiers in the field. The pundits (including Larry King and Doc Phil) have said that you cannot blame an entire religion for his act. They are saying that since 9.11 people made fun of him and called him a 'camel-jockey' and that it is their fault ... not his. AAAARRRGGGGHHHH!!! It has also come out thru interviews with witnesses, that he was yelling, "Alahu Ackbar" prior as he was shooting the soldiers.

Like others have stated, I have zero trust for any muslim, including the ones I'm forced to work with.

God bless those soldiers who were killed and wounded and their families. God bless those stationed at Ft Hood.

The reports coming in now state that General Cone, himself has said that the shooter was screaming allah akbar as he began his spree. Wonder how it is that the FBI can say that this was not a terrorist attack?
Yep the PC crap bites us in the arse again.

Something else that I have been thinking about is that many Muslims here in America seem to be pretty passive and mild mannered. Everyone that the media has talked to that knew this guy said the same thing about him.

Article Link

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I know I am speaking to the choir here but here goes. As we know and as I told my sister yesterday, we can fight them there or fight them here. I prefer to do it in their yard and not ours.

TD Got it correct. He is a coward. Political correctness kills the innocent.

I would prefer to take this muslim trash and put him in a pit and them release a bunch of wild hungry boars in the pit with them. I wonder how many of the 72 virgins would want them after they emerge from a pigs rear end.

They are not the religion of peace.

What is really disgusting about this is to watch all these reporters stumble all over themselves to keep from calling this what it is. A terrorist attack by a radical Muslim. This is the very reason that we are in the shape we are in. The Truth just jumped up and slapped us and we look for the reason why when it is as obvious as the nose on your face. It makes me sick that we feel we have to get into this guys head to figure out what type of little quirk made him explode. Duhhhhh....He is a Radical Muslim and was operating on the dictates of his religion. Thats it, thats all. There are still some things, on this earth that are exactly what they appear to be on the surface and this is one of those things.

This statement is from a story in the Early Brief from Military.com.

"On a form filled out by those seeking spouses through a program at the mosque, Hasan listed his birthplace as Arlington, Va., but his nationality as Palestinian, Khan said.

"I don't know why he listed Palestinian," Khan said, "He was not born in Palestine."
Nothing stood out about Hasan as radical or extremist, Khan said."

That one line should have set off all kinds of alarm bells. A US Army officer, natural born US citizen, that describes his NATIONALITY as Palestinian.

That is pretty dang radical.

All that keeps going through my head is that someone (in the media) once said that Islam is a "peaceful religion". I just wonder how badly someone wants to drill that idea into our heads?
From what I've seen and heard on the news (FOX), the shooter was born in America, but has practiced Islam all of his life. He dresses in muslim garb when not in uniform and has posted some pretty questionable opinions on his 'blog'. (and he wonders why his fellow soldiers don't like him?)
What I can't understand is why he was counseling soldiers who came back home, what could he have said to them when he was not willing to go and fight himself?
Under this administration, (and I'm not trying to make a joke ...at all) he will probably be given a fine new wheelchair, a swine flu shot, and sent home to his family.

Ali,

The answer to your questions is 'political correct'. We have painted ourselves into a corner by refusing to honor (the first amendment) free speech. Yet we allow our enemies to make full and expanded use of OUR right. We have come to the point in our lives where we cringe and look in all directions when someone accuses, 'racist'. We use letters (N) to symbolize words that, in this age, most have no idea what they mean.

Since 9.11.2001 our federal and state governments have felt the need to bow to islamists and hire them for different needs (interpreters/islamic traditions) and to then pat themselves on the back for being so culturally aware.

Religion of Peace??? These people have had for 1000s of years an agenda ... and it is being advanced at an accelerated pace as we speak. This link shows the 'Religion of Peace' activities in the last two months. Pay attention to the fact of the total terrorist attacks since 9.11.2001 ... over 14,000 terrorist attacks, murders, rapes, beheadings, abductions, etc.

The Religion of Peace Link

Major Nidal Malik Hasan had his agenda, in my unsubstantiated opinion. When he found out he was being deployed, he decided to carry out that agenda. A 'devout muslim' murdered in an act of terrorism several soldiers, probably Christian, Jew, Agnostic, or Atheist ... but all were unarmed. Here are their pictures and stories.

American Soldier Links

Ali, I'm not picking on you but merely giving my thoughts on this tragic event. IMO, the only thing that separates it from 9.11.2001 is a lesser number of victims.

We need to drop Political Correctness and begin calling a 'Spade a spade'. PC gets people killed.

This has been VERY surreal.......cannot post details on line......VERY SURREAL.....

I will say that as we were flying home and stopped @ a kiosk in the airport, less than 24 hours from when this happened, there was a Moooslim sitting on "his rug" with laptops and other electronic stuff around him, his Mooslim music playing......made me nervous. Talked with the daughter after about it. She goes to college and they have PC crammed down their throats so she took it with a grain of salt. Until she told me that they never pray - and I reminded her "unless they are radical and going on a jihad" - I think that flipped off the PC switch and put her military switch back on - could see it in her eyes.

TD - you are absolutely right - the dangers of Political Correctness have killed 12 of our best men and women ((one of them a local Soldier).

In the words of Gary........I'M "MAD AS HELL"

I hope red blooded Americans are waking up and feeling the pain of what political correctness will get you - and

Tomorrow our PGR are working with her hometown to show support for the Family of this Soldier fallen to TERRORISM.

Sorry, but emotions are getting the best of me right now......

THIS DAMN COUNTRY BETTER FRIGGIN WAKE UP!!!!!!!

This post has been edited by Culture Warrior on Nov 7 2009, 07:05 AM

AN AMERICAN HERO!


Sgt. Kimberly Munley
(Hospitalized)
The top commander at Fort Hood is crediting Sgt. Kimberly Munley, a civilian police officer, for stopping the shooting rampage that killed 13 people at the Texas post.

Fort Hood police Munley, 34, and her partner responded within three minutes of reported gunfire Thursday afternoon. Cone said Munley shot the gunman four times despite being shot herself.

On Munley's Twitter page, Munley is pictured with country music star Dierks Bentley at the Fort Hood "Freedom Fest." Her Twitter bio read: 'I live a good life. ... a hard one, but I go to sleep peacefully @ night knowing that I may have made a difference in someone's life."

(Source: The Associated Press, Starnewsonline.com, NBC News)




May God help her recover..........and help all of those that are suffering from this act of TERRORISM

GOD BLESS AMERICA!

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This is against the code of ethics for ANY physician, much less one in the military.

If this isn't a case where PC bit our arse, in order not to "offend" the so called "Religion of Peace" (Ali - it was our President Bush that came up with that tag), then we ARE looking the other way and not seeing evil for what it is.

More history

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CW you aren't alone, many of us see the same thing and feel the same way. We can not continue down this road of blind tolerance and remain a free people. The progressive liberal agenda has been chipping away for so long that many do not even recognize it or question the sanity of it but, we must fight the feelings and emotions that we have to just retreat and become reclusive. As long as we have a voice we must continue to reveal the naked truth to those that will listen. I for one am glad to have The Mountain and other places to post where I can let the world know what kind of evil lurks in our midst. It gives me a release and at least I can live with myself knowing that I did my part to warn the people. We can't save the world but, maybe we can change enough opinions to have an impact.

The latest on this - apparently a spade is a spade, and a terrorist is a radical islamofacist:

RADICAL CLERIC TIED TO SHOOTING AT BASE IN TEXAS...

FBI dropped inquiry...

Officials: U.S. Aware of Hasan Efforts to Contact al Qaeda... 'AWAKE AND TALKING'...

Military to charge Ft. Hood suspect...

This whole thing just makes me sick to my stomach......

This is a repeat of 9-11 with all the warning flags that were there, and no one listening.

But this time around - they STILL are not listening......

I fear the worst is yet to come......

The first thing out of Hasan's mouth was "I want a lawyer".

I think I would have been more about giving him maybe a nice flat board on the floor with a mask and a bucket of water.

My thoughts run a little wilder than that!

Freedom of Choice ... take your pick



This post has been edited by Toothless Dawg on Nov 11 2009, 09:46 AM

Do you ever wonder why we have trouble identifying these radical murderers???

Check out this article.

The muslims wonder why we don't trust them. Maybe because they systematically protect these murderers???



Couldn't beat the truth into their heads with a hammer.

http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/Mosques_p...omo_code=9099-1

Saying he is being conservative, an FBI counterterrorism official told me in interviews for the book that 1 in 10 imams preach jihad. Before 9/11, the number of mosques where imams preached jihad was even greater than today.

“Those who actively support extremist causes, say America is evil and deserves what it gets, and celebrate the death of soldiers, know they may come to our attention,” an FBI official says. “So they don’t do it as openly now.”

The FBI has outreach programs to try to develop sources in the Muslim community and solicit tips, but FBI agents have found little receptivity. They find that Muslims often are in denial about the fact that the terrorists who threaten the U.S. are Muslims.

“I had this discussion with the director of a very prominent Muslim organization here in D.C.,” a frustrated counterterrorism agent says. “And he said, ‘Why are you guys always looking at the Muslim community?’”

The agent began laughing.

“Okay, you know what I’ll do?” the agent said. “I’ll start an Irish squad, or how about a Japanese squad? You want me to waste my time and your taxpayers' dollars going to look at the Irish? They’re not killing Americans. Right now, I’m going to put my money and my people in a place where the threat is.”

The agent tells them to take a look at the cells that the FBI has rolled up in the United States.

“I can name the home-grown cells, all of whom are Muslim, all of whom were seeking to murder Americans,” the agent says. “It’s not the Irish, it’s not the French, it’s not the Catholics, it’s not the Protestants, it’s the Muslims.”

In response, Muslim groups have told him he is rough around the edges.

“I’m not rough around the edges,” he tells them. “You’re just not used to straight talk.”

They respond by getting angry at him.

Call me crazy but, I really do think that there is a systematic coordinated effort going on, by Extremist Muslim Factions to take over our government while committing random acts of terror around the country. I still believe that we have sleeper cells waiting on orders to launch attacks against infrastructure and civilian and military targets. Call it Jihad or Intifada or whatever you want. They are here because our P.C. Media, Politicians and Officials do not have any sense of reality and prefer to live in their little Utopian dream world where the Barney Song and Kumbiya keeps playing over and over in their little brainwashed heads. Did anyone notice that Mr. Obama had very little to say about this and will do even less.

I am sorry, I am having a tin foil hat morning

My thoughts run a little wilder than that!

I am sorry James, I left out the lead pipe and the thumb screws oh and maybe at the last burying him neck deep in a hog pin with a couple wild boars so when he does die a horrible death and afterword he will have to go through the pigs intestines, completely defiling him according to the Muslim religion (borrowed this idea from another great mind)

GB, I'm glad to see that you've recovered from the 'mellow'

I didn't as I didn't listen to him when he went to Fort Hood, but Ann Coulter must have listened and picked up this little statement of his trying to sweep it under the rug.

Ahhh, you know we all have our sensitive moments but, I try not to let them linger.

I heard on the Laura Ingraham show today that there are reports coming across the AP wire that the Feds are in the process of seizing 4 mosque, possibly in connection to the Fort Hood massacre. I guess we'll have to wait for the details but, this will probably not make the the Muslim population or the ACLU happy.

Here ya go ... I waited to post the link hoping for a more informative link but the MSM severely cut the details of the story.

Seizure link

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As I returned home last night from work and plopped down to eat supper - the TV happened to be turned to the CBS news hosted by none other than Katie Couric.

As her report on Hassan developed on his income and what he did with it - living a life with few possessions, a nearly empty inexpensive apartment that fell below housing allowances that he was entitled, and as a "generous" individual giving his income to his local mosque for those in need..........

BARF


well.....there went supper.......

Apparently this beaver has a tough time holding things in on cbs, as well.....

Here is a somewhat related article ...

Clinton gun ban link

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A scathing criticism of BHO and his administration and the response to this act of terrorism:

Major Hasan and Holy War
A domestic Islamic threat is real, and the FBI is unprepared to fight it.

The picture is worth a thousand words:

We have seen many changes since January of this year. People were told that changes would come if BHO was elected, but I think maybe they didn't realize exactly what he meant when he said changes. One of those changes was that he has took our national security back to pre 911 days so expect a major terrorist incident to be forthcoming in the very near future. I read one article that mentions that a majority of Americans thinks that will take place within the next 6 months due to our blinded leadership. I hate to see it coming and hate that a lot of innocent people could be killed or maimed, but I don't have a clue as to how to control something like that when we have someone in office that thinks like Jimmy Carter did and has relaxed our national security. Something I learned long ago is; you cannot sweet talk someone that wants to hurt or kill you.

"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental."

I read an article yesterday but don't remember where it was ... it was along the same lines as your post, James. The writer also stated that under weakness (such as Carter, Clinton, and Obammy administrations) terrorism thrives. Basically when you show weakness the bad guys surge forward ... that same premise can be applied to 'neighborhoods' as well as 'countries'.

Another quote re: obammy and his visit to the Far East ... he came as friends and left with nothing (or words to that effect ... forgive my memory). All world leaders know how weak and ignorant this PoS really is ...


This post has been edited by Toothless Dawg on Nov 24 2009, 09:09 AM