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caz
Posted: Oct 6 2009, 06:18 PM


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Hi i am carol and have already had a disc replaced by Mr Ross. then sent to Warrington Mr shackleford to be told i need 3 moor doing. :( . I am hoping that will be it how many can they do this will make 4 i will be like metel micky.
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ajj1001
Posted: Oct 6 2009, 06:31 PM


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Hi Carol

Wow you'll be bionic! How long since your last ADR and which one has been done and which ones is Mr S doing?

alison x


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2009 Std meds - Gabapentin, MR Tramadol, Paracetemol, Laxatives
May PLG Fusion L5/S1 Charite in situ
March Started appealing dismissal at work. April Dismissed
2008 June MRI showed additional prolapse L2/L3
Feb Caudal Epidural, on Gabapentin since due to pain.
2007 Deterioration L5/S1 Facet arthritis, Loss of disc height.
2004 Return to Work
2002 Aug started rehab
March 2 level ADR Charite L4/5, L5/S1
2000 Broadbased disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1
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caz
Posted: Oct 6 2009, 06:35 PM


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QUOTE (ajj1001 @ Oct 6 2009, 06:31 PM)
Hi Carol

Wow you'll be bionic! How long since your last ADR and which one has been done and which ones is Mr S doing?

alison x

Hi Its 3 years in feb next year i think it was L4/5 and having 3 above that. I just hope that will be the end. Been like this for years now.
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ajj1001
Posted: Oct 6 2009, 06:41 PM


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Were the three discs above L4/L5 looking ok when you had the ADR done or did you know they would need tackling eventually?

alison x



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2009 Std meds - Gabapentin, MR Tramadol, Paracetemol, Laxatives
May PLG Fusion L5/S1 Charite in situ
March Started appealing dismissal at work. April Dismissed
2008 June MRI showed additional prolapse L2/L3
Feb Caudal Epidural, on Gabapentin since due to pain.
2007 Deterioration L5/S1 Facet arthritis, Loss of disc height.
2004 Return to Work
2002 Aug started rehab
March 2 level ADR Charite L4/5, L5/S1
2000 Broadbased disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1
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caz
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 12:09 AM


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QUOTE (ajj1001 @ Oct 6 2009, 06:41 PM)
Were the three discs above L4/L5 looking ok when you had the ADR done or did you know they would need tackling eventually?

alison x

I was told one needed doing but mr ross could not do 2 disc on the freedom study but 3 no i am really upset.
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ajj1001
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 10:31 AM


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Its awful to face surgery again so soon, were you told that just doing one might be ok? I can understand how upset you are, I was bad enough having to have surgery 7 years after my first op. Which type of disc are you having for L3/L4, L2/L3 and L1/L2?


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2009 Std meds - Gabapentin, MR Tramadol, Paracetemol, Laxatives
May PLG Fusion L5/S1 Charite in situ
March Started appealing dismissal at work. April Dismissed
2008 June MRI showed additional prolapse L2/L3
Feb Caudal Epidural, on Gabapentin since due to pain.
2007 Deterioration L5/S1 Facet arthritis, Loss of disc height.
2004 Return to Work
2002 Aug started rehab
March 2 level ADR Charite L4/5, L5/S1
2000 Broadbased disc prolapses L4/5, L5/S1
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csutton1
  Posted: Oct 7 2009, 10:41 AM


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QUOTE (caz @ Oct 7 2009, 12:09 AM)
QUOTE (ajj1001 @ Oct 6 2009, 06:41 PM)
Were the three discs above L4/L5 looking ok when you had the ADR done or did you know they would need tackling eventually?

alison x

I was told one needed doing but mr ross could not do 2 disc on the freedom study but 3 no i am really upset.

Hi Carol.

How did the Freedom disc work for you? I had been waiting for Mr Ross to do 2 levels but he has now said he can not and I have also been referred to Mr Shackleford, from what I have read on this site I would much prefer Mr Shackleford to mr Ross, please try to think positive you have been moved to a much better surgeon, I know it must be absolutly awful to have to go through it all over again, but you are in better hands now.
xxx


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Take Care
Carole
1986 X-Ray .DDD
1986 Physio
2005 Spinal rehab
2006 Scan abnormal Lumber Spine and Pelvis.
Severe DDD at L4/5 and L5/S1.
ref to Mr Mohammed @ Hope Hospital, more Physio
2007 Epidural
2007 told to lose 3 stone put on trial for freedom disc
2009 2nd scan rapid escalation L2/3, 3/4, 4/5, 5/1mr ross no longer able to operate, referred to mr Shackleton
scan on 15/10/09
see Mr S 17/12/09 for results (long wait)
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Lynda
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 11:07 AM


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Welcome to the forum Carol but sorry to hear you need further surgery, I understand how you must be feeling right now but am happy that Mr Shackleford can help you.


I have four artificial discs, two in my lower back and two in my neck, Mr Shackleford undertook both of my surgeries and I highly recommend him.

It is unfortunate that you have this further degeneration Carol but sometimes it happens. Not sure whether having had the op before is an advantage or not, at least you know what it entails and can be prepared and doing something a second time is never as bad as first time. I'm just trying to reassure you but you know you are facing a big operation, just focus on the fact that it will be worth it to have relief from the pain. We will support you through as best we can, there are many helpful people here.

Look forward to the New Year when you will be recovering and all this will be behind you.

Very best wishes

Lynda

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Lumbar facet injections, May 2008 - Mr Shackleford, Warrington
Cervical TDR, (Activ C's) C5/6 & C6/7, Feb 2008- Mr Shackleford, Warrington
Craniotomy and resection frontal lobe brain tumour, May 2006 - The Walton Centre for Neurology and Neurosurgery
Lumbar TDR, (ProDisc's) L4/5 & L5/S1, Feb 2004 - Mr Shackleford, Warrington
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caz
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 11:46 AM


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QUOTE (csutton1 @ Oct 7 2009, 10:41 AM)
QUOTE (caz @ Oct 7 2009, 12:09 AM)
QUOTE (ajj1001 @ Oct 6 2009, 06:41 PM)
Were the three discs above L4/L5 looking ok when you had the ADR done or did you know they would need tackling eventually?

alison x

I was told one needed doing but mr ross could not do 2 disc on the freedom study but 3 no i am really upset.

Hi Carol.

How did the Freedom disc work for you? I had been waiting for Mr Ross to do 2 levels but he has now said he can not and I have also been referred to Mr Shackleford, from what I have read on this site I would much prefer Mr Shackleford to mr Ross, please try to think positive you have been moved to a much better surgeon, I know it must be absolutly awful to have to go through it all over again, but you are in better hands now.
xxx

I was told it might not work as needed 2 doing but could only do 1 i then waiting 2 1/2 years with mr r saying he would do the other one to then be told sorry. Messing with lives not nice. I have met mr S 3 times now and can say i am glad to be in his care even though its a 50 mile round trip. He does what he says.
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caz
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 11:50 AM


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QUOTE (ajj1001 @ Oct 7 2009, 10:31 AM)
Its awful to face surgery again so soon, were you told that just doing one might be ok? I can understand how upset you are, I was bad enough having to have surgery 7 years after my first op. Which type of disc are you having for L3/L4, L2/L3 and L1/L2?

Hi thanks he told me they are called ACTIVE L. Thats all i no about them
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Pip
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 05:30 PM


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I had Activ L by Mr Shackleford in 2 discs at L5/S1 and L5/L4 in May.
Recovering well so far..

Pip


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1991 Had upper back injury whilst working.
On going upper and lower back problems, with prolasped discs.
SPD during last pregnancy.
2008 Extreem advance in lumber pain. Refered to Mr Shackleford at Spire Hospital.
MRI showed a number of problems. Disc bulging. Moderate DDD, spinal oesteophites.etc.
Physio for 8 months
March 2009 facet joint blocks at L4/L5 and L5/S1.
May 2009 double disc replacement at Spire.
Treatment for Sacro Illiac problems
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caz
Posted: Oct 7 2009, 07:43 PM


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QUOTE (Pip @ Oct 7 2009, 05:30 PM)
I had Activ L by Mr Shackleford in 2 discs at L5/S1 and L5/L4 in May.
Recovering well so far..

Pip

so pleased to hear that hope all goes well.
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Gilly
Posted: Oct 8 2009, 12:01 PM


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Hi Carol
Sorry to hear you have so many problems with 4 discs. Just want to say I know how you feel about having your life messed about. I spent about 2 years under a Preston surgeon to be told that he couldn't do 2 level ADR and that he didn't agree that the op helped back pain. It is such a waste of time and also deteriorating fitness levels. Mr S is replacing 2 for me next week and I have every faith in him. You really have been treated very badly.
Good luck to you with Mr S.
Love Gilly xxx


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1990 MRI disc protrusion level4/5 fusion offered but
declined due to poor prognosis.
Osteopathy, physio,traction,steroid injections
epidurals all tried.
2006 Muscular-skeletal back building course.
2007 Mri disc protrusions Level 4/5 level5/S1.
2008 Discograms show annular tears and bulging.
2009 2 levelADR op 23rd April by Mr Shackleford cancelled
due to anaemia.1st Oct and 15th cancelled. Now 29th
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caz
Posted: Oct 8 2009, 02:50 PM


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QUOTE (Gilly @ Oct 8 2009, 12:01 PM)
Hi Carol
Sorry to hear you have so many problems with 4 discs. Just want to say I know how you feel about having your life messed about. I spent about 2 years under a Preston surgeon to be told that he couldn't do 2 level ADR and that he didn't agree that the op helped back pain. It is such a waste of time and also deteriorating fitness levels. Mr S is replacing 2 for me next week and I have every faith in him. You really have been treated very badly.
Good luck to you with Mr S.
Love Gilly xxx

Thanks Gilly and good luck nest week your in good hands so we all no it will go well. Love carol
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straker
Posted: Oct 10 2009, 11:25 AM


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your all extramley brave .some of you have had 3 or more ADR and talk about it as if it was getting a tooth filled .i have nothing but admiration for you all .i am scared stiff as i may have to have ADR myself as my back is worn out and i have already had 2 major back surgeries .the last one has left me incapacitated .what i would like to know is ..befor your surgery could you only sleep for an hour or so befor pain woke you/also did you loose sexual function and were you in constant pain all the time .i was a fit man and now my life consisted of pain killers and recliner .i fell sad super scared and worried sick .i have read so many bad things about ADR and i belong to another site {spine health} and i have has so mane people tel me to steer clear of ADR as they are still experimental and you only here of the good out comes .also i have read that there is premature failure of the device as the polyprolaline bush wears out causing pain and even worse life threatening surgery ..i am due a new MRI scan soon then a consultation with gnanalingham nut after that i want to see Mr shackleford for a second opinion .even is ADR is indicated i don't know whether i have it in me to go through the operation as i feel that something terrible will happen to me either on the table of a few months later .i am really scared and i would like to meet some one that has gone through the procedure .i am in Manchester and from what i can gather most of you live within a 50 mile radius ,my wife and i would be willing to travel to any location to meet with some one to talk to a real human that has been through the procedure ,contact me for my phone number ,tony.beer 1@goodlemail.com
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hi .first operation 1997 .L4/L5 laminectomy .then 2007 S1 bilateral discectomy and revision surgery of original operation .also diagnose with extensive facet joint syndrome and thoracic outlet syndrome.2009 now been told i an not a suitable candidate for normal spine surgery due to lack of healthy tissue .i am waiting for a new MRI scan and the only option is ADR .i am in pain and only sleep for 3 hours at a time .i
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