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Title: Politics
Description: Politics in South America


opium - August 10, 2008 03:18 PM (GMT)
Ciao,
Are there any politics in South America's stands? What are poles, is there a WhitePower/Nazi mouvement in South America, or other racist conflicts? Which clubs get support of which social classes, or ethnogroups? Is there a significant indio style on terraces?

These are some of my question hope someone sacrafices his time for me. :correct

Thanks and greetings!

one love!

sorry for my bad english

albo_loko - August 11, 2008 07:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (opium @ Aug 10 2008, 03:18 PM)
Ciao,
Are there any politics in South America's stands? What are poles, is there a WhitePower/Nazi mouvement in South America, or other racist conflicts? Which clubs get support of which social classes, or ethnogroups? Is there a significant indio style on terraces?

These are some of my question hope someone sacrafices his time for me. :correct

Thanks and greetings!

one love!

sorry for my bad english

Hi,

In south america most of the fans are Left. most of the groups have pictures of Che Guevara in there group or the Swastika with a cross through it...or even the anarchist symbol.

but as ive heard some youngsters in argentina are getting into the white/nazi movement. and also some in brazil. but mainly all of south america are left or no politics.

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photos are from Chile and im sure i have seen flags of Che Guevara in Argentinian groups.

opium - August 13, 2008 11:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (albo_loko @ Aug 11 2008, 07:06 AM)
QUOTE (opium @ Aug 10 2008, 03:18 PM)
Ciao,
Are there any politics in South America's stands? What are poles, is there a WhitePower/Nazi mouvement in South America, or other racist conflicts? Which clubs get support of which social classes, or ethnogroups? Is there a significant indio style on terraces?

These are some of my question hope someone sacrafices his time for me.  :correct

Thanks and greetings!

one love!

sorry for my bad english

Hi,

In south america most of the fans are Left. most of the groups have pictures of Che Guevara in there group or the Swastika with a cross through it...or even the anarchist symbol.

but as ive heard some youngsters in argentina are getting into the white/nazi movement. and also some in brazil. but mainly all of south america are left or no politics.

user posted image

user posted image

user posted image

photos are from Chile and im sure i have seen flags of Che Guevara in Argentinian groups.

what about indios in terraces, are there tribes in the stands^^? i thougt i read once that indios even invented football before the english. or something footballlike, so it should be very tradicional. and some not football-related question, did indio "ethnic" mix with "white" "ethic"? you now what i mean i think....

albo_loko - August 13, 2008 10:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (opium @ Aug 13 2008, 11:57 AM)
QUOTE (albo_loko @ Aug 11 2008, 07:06 AM)
QUOTE (opium @ Aug 10 2008, 03:18 PM)
Ciao,
Are there any politics in South America's stands? What are poles, is there a WhitePower/Nazi mouvement in South America, or other racist conflicts? Which clubs get support of which social classes, or ethnogroups? Is there a significant indio style on terraces?

These are some of my question hope someone sacrafices his time for me.  :correct

Thanks and greetings!

one love!

sorry for my bad english

Hi,

In south america most of the fans are Left. most of the groups have pictures of Che Guevara in there group or the Swastika with a cross through it...or even the anarchist symbol.

but as ive heard some youngsters in argentina are getting into the white/nazi movement. and also some in brazil. but mainly all of south america are left or no politics.


photos are from Chile and im sure i have seen flags of Che Guevara in Argentinian groups.

what about indios in terraces, are there tribes in the stands^^? i thougt i read once that indios even invented football before the english. or something footballlike, so it should be very tradicional. and some not football-related question, did indio "ethnic" mix with "white" "ethic"? you now what i mean i think....

if i think what u mean by indios like the natives of south america. well in Garra Blanca we are a tribe we give ourselves nicknames such as indios lokos. the tribe that is involved with us is one from Rapa Nui or the Mapuches. because our team emblem has a warrior 'Colo Colo' we look up to indians. Many wouldve mixed with the whites because we have no problem against them we have problems against nazis.

San Lorenzo 1908 - September 6, 2008 11:18 PM (GMT)
In Argentina Politics are not important in football. Its not like Europe. People not mixed each other. But some hools has politics contact. Sometimes they "work" for politicians..some times the hools are used in politics acts...its very corrupt. But that only the hools, the rest of the people that go to the stadium dont translate their ideology to the match.

Ey Chileno, es medio dificil explicarle a los europeos que los barras a veces van a los actos políticos, que los usan como guarda espaldas muchas veces, que tienen sus contactos para moverse tranquilos, que a veces ponen una bandera de algun politico como favorcito... pero que tambien van a la cancha y alientan jajaj

albo_loko - September 7, 2008 02:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (San Lorenzo 1908 @ Sep 6 2008, 11:18 PM)
In Argentina Politics are not important in football. Its not like Europe. People not mixed each other. But some hools has politics contact. Sometimes they "work" for politicians..some times the hools are used in politics acts...its very corrupt. But that only the hools, the rest of the people that go to the stadium dont translate their ideology to the match.

Ey Chileno, es medio dificil explicarle a los europeos que los barras a veces van a los actos políticos, que los usan como guarda espaldas muchas veces, que tienen sus contactos para moverse tranquilos, que a veces ponen una bandera de algun politico como favorcito... pero que tambien van a la cancha y alientan jajaj

estos weones no saben como somos. ello creen que nosotros somo eguales. los europeos son todo weones fascista que no deben de existir. Lo mejore barras son en latino america por que alentamo y no mas. no vamor poner weas de nazi y cantar weas de negros y chucha.

eres de Argentina?...barristas de san lorenzo van a alentar a la seleccion??...yo vi una foto con uno locos de los borrachos del tablon en el mundial con bombos de river.


yo escuche que ahora en argentina cabros o los ricos son derecha?

Y como sabes de este foro?

San Lorenzo 1908 - September 7, 2008 05:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (albo_loko @ Sep 7 2008, 02:23 AM)
QUOTE (San Lorenzo 1908 @ Sep 6 2008, 11:18 PM)
In Argentina Politics are not important in football. Its not like Europe. People not mixed each other. But some hools has politics contact. Sometimes they "work" for politicians..some times the hools are used in politics acts...its very corrupt. But that only the hools, the rest of the people that go to the stadium dont translate their ideology to the match.

Ey Chileno, es medio dificil explicarle a los europeos que los barras a veces van a los actos políticos, que los usan como guarda espaldas muchas veces, que tienen sus contactos para moverse tranquilos, que a veces ponen una bandera de algun politico como favorcito... pero que tambien van a la cancha y alientan jajaj

estos weones no saben como somos. ello creen que nosotros somo eguales. los europeos son todo weones fascista que no deben de existir. Lo mejore barras son en latino america por que alentamo y no mas. no vamor poner weas de nazi y cantar weas de negros y chucha.

eres de Argentina?...barristas de san lorenzo van a alentar a la seleccion??...yo vi una foto con uno locos de los borrachos del tablon en el mundial con bombos de river.


yo escuche que ahora en argentina cabros o los ricos son derecha?

Y como sabes de este foro?

A ver, parte de la barra brava de San Lorenzo no soy. Pero he ido con ellos un par de veces. Con respecto a los partidos de la selección argentina. Claro, los borrachos del tablón eran los que iban porque jugamos en cancha de River. Ahora no van porque estan buscados por la policia y aparte con muchos problemas entre ellos. Y al último mundial fueron varias barras. Los de River eran mayoria, pero habia de Independiente, San Lorenzo, Huracan, Racing, Excursionistas, Defensa y Justicia, Platense, Defensores de Belgrano y algunos mas..

Y la última pregunta que me hiciste no la entendi, esa de los cabros ricos..¿?

albo_loko - September 8, 2008 10:07 AM (GMT)
que son fascista los cauros aya...y los ricos tambien son fascistas? es verdad?

San Lorenzo 1908 - September 8, 2008 01:37 PM (GMT)
fascisas no son pero en el centro son derecha. pero fascista no son.

albo_loko - September 8, 2008 10:40 PM (GMT)
ok!!

y aya en argentina tienen peliculas en el cine de la hinchada. Como aka. Sudaka Films hiso un doc de la GB...y recien salio en el cine

San Lorenzo 1908 - September 8, 2008 11:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (albo_loko @ Sep 8 2008, 10:40 PM)
ok!!

y aya en argentina tienen peliculas en el cine de la hinchada. Como aka. Sudaka Films hiso un doc de la GB...y recien salio en el cine

Películas no, cada tanto algo en algún programa de tv pero nada mas.




wfc1338 - February 16, 2012 04:07 PM (GMT)
Is it me or did I see celtic crosses at Once Caldas?

Pienso he visto cruces celticas a Once Caldas.

matheus-rsj - February 21, 2012 12:01 AM (GMT)
I always see in Mexico, Chile, Colombia antifa´s banners.

Here (Brazil), some groups have Banners with che guevara face...but they don´t know the history of che guevara. They use to use, without ideology.
In Brazil is complicated mix political ideologies in the groups.

Cheers! :) :cheers

Manga - April 16, 2012 11:22 PM (GMT)
In Brazil '95'% of ultras groups havent any politc ideology.The most of just use Famous policans peoples just like a symbol.

for exemple:che guevara,Saddan russem,Bob marley, Rene Barrientos.

and havent racism on relasion of color:white,black and mixed toghetter

we just fight for our teams and our allies!




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