Title: Ultras in Israel
Brann - January 29, 2006 10:46 AM (GMT)
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Our group was founded on 1996 when Eylon (Lony) Herzikovich purchase Maccabi Tel Aviv football club and replaced the coach Dror Kashtan by Avram Grant.
From that point of time the club enter to a low point period. Very embarrasing matters occurred: the afedrin case (trainer coach gave forbidden drugs to the players), Shlomo Sherf case (fired the coach after 2 games), Shimon Korek case (fired general manager), Avi Nimni case (thorw our Captain and symbol for over then 14 years because huge ego and political reasons) and so forth…
The Ultras make worse his protest against the Chairman and became the large opposition group versus the management of the team, and fight time after time against the injustices actions that happened to the fans by the Chairman/management etc…
Maccabi Tel Aviv fans had never have an organization who can fight for their rights or to unite them for one massiveness. The Ultras Maccabi is a group who cheer the team and wants only its success. The Ultras works to protect the fans in legal ways and don’t accept favors from the management!
The Ultras wants to make gates 10-11 (the south gate) to a fans gate – it means that the fans will get the control over the gates. The group make beautiful choreography in the stadium in every game and cheer the team non stop.
The Ultras don’t depend economically in any source and clean of any interest . |
What do you mean about this group? are they doing well?
Talk about it here, maybe give us som more info if you want ;)
(You can find their site here)Click here for pictures from this club/group!
green apes - February 4, 2006 08:35 AM (GMT)
ultras maccabi its a banch of kids that copy all their materilas and her banners,they sais that they know italian and know the mentalita ultras but is one big bulshit.
green apes-the realy ultras in israel
BeitarUltras - February 7, 2006 09:14 AM (GMT)
ultras maccabi copy their materilas and her banners,but green apes too.
even the songs is theirs they copyists.
green apes & ultras maccabi is bulshit,but my favorire is ultras maccabi because him don't sneakers for police!
Ultras Lions Den 4 Ever!
the green apes copyists deposit G roys carriage Maccabi Haifa Hizballa!
lilmike - February 11, 2006 06:56 PM (GMT)
All groups copy each other!They copy songs,2 sticks,flags its all normal its rlly hard to be original these days you know.
ultras hapoel - October 18, 2006 01:24 PM (GMT)
in the last two years, the ultras in israel has been very god!. why it is not caunt in the world?...the ultras in israel is beter from the most ov the ultras in: spain, england, scotland, romania, and most of earope...
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Brann - October 18, 2006 01:45 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ultras hapoel @ Oct 18 2006, 01:24 PM) |
in the last two years, the ultras in israel has been very god!. why it is not caunt in the world?...the ultras in israel is beter from the most ov the ultras in: spain, england, scotland, romania, and most of earope...
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I think people dont talk about ultras from Isreal because they know nothing about that scene. Its hard to find any info, very little talk from ultras from Isreal and about your ultras, and nearly no one understand your letters/language, so its very hard to get info and news from Isreal if you just check random forums.
Africa, South-America, greece, Turkey and so on has the same problem, Hard to find info, no talk, but very good fans/ultras.
Its just to keep up the good work, spread info and see what happen.
GA02 - October 18, 2006 05:07 PM (GMT)
vi_R_us - October 18, 2006 10:59 PM (GMT)
many ultras group don't care for showing their information ... so that they do some great tifos and great work .. but still not well known outside thier region .
like many groups in the arab world .
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but sorry don't tell me that israel got good ultras groups .. cuz many points . the first one is how many fans go to the stadium .. the most is stadiums with capacity less than 15 000
but in spain and england the stadium can hold more than 100 000
so if there some work in israel .. it will be so hard to do it in spain cuz the diffrence of the capacity .
La Familia - October 28, 2006 08:09 AM (GMT)
vi_R_us - October 29, 2006 01:59 AM (GMT)
no politica - November 9, 2006 11:16 PM (GMT)
this head of this man ...is DELHJE AND GATE 7 ultras emblem.(MACABI)
La Familia - November 10, 2006 04:13 PM (GMT)
Maccabi TA has 2 more groups, The 12'th Player and SUB11.
Ultras Maccabi rulins the team because they protest about all most anything, The 12'th Player is a bettar group in all most everything and most of the pictuers youv'e brought are of The 12'th player.
**** Maccabi!
GA02 - November 10, 2006 06:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BeitarUltras @ Feb 7 2006, 11:14 AM) |
ultras maccabi copy their materilas and her banners,but green apes too. even the songs is theirs they copyists.
green apes & ultras maccabi is bulshit,but my favorire is ultras maccabi because him don't sneakers for police!
Ultras Lions Den 4 Ever!
the green apes copyists deposit G roys carriage Maccabi Haifa Hizballa! |
bla bla bla
you have no songs!!!
just 2-3 songs
3 words in any songs
songs like
i love you beitar
yalla yalla beitar
and this is all
La Familia - November 11, 2006 09:22 AM (GMT)
First i'll start by giving you a link to the topic about the israeli football:
http://z6.invisionfree.com/UltrasTifosi/in...0entry5666848Now let's get to ultras buisnnes. The ultras Scene in israel is quiet new.
Ultras Maccabi (Maccabi Tel Aviv) (
Info about that group) was the first known ultras group in israel and he was founded in 1996. Other group have built them self like Ultras Hapoel (Hapoel Tel Aviv) in 1999. Green Apes (Maccabi Haifa) have been founded in 2002.
ULTRAS Lions Den (Beitar Jerusalem) was founded in 2002 too, but broke apart a year after. La Familia (Beitar Jerusalem) (
Info about this group) has been founded in replace in 2005.
Dolplhinim (S.C Ashdod) have been founded in 2005. Maccabi Petach Tikva have "Man in Blue" (the year of foundation isn't known) And Hapoel Petach Tikva have "Blue Panthers (also unkown the year). Maccabi Netanya have "Crazy Diamonds" and it was founded in 2003. Hapoel Kfar Saba have "The Green Heart" (Unkown year).
The biggest rivalers and the most intersting matches in ultras meanings are:
Maccabi TA - Hapoel TA
Beitar Jerusalem - Hapoel TA
Beitar Jerusalem - Maccabi TA
Beitar Jerusalem - Maccabi Haifa
Maccabi TA - Maccabi Haifa
Hapoel Petach Tikva - Maccabi Petach Tikva
Fan Pictuers:
Beitar JerusalemHapoel Tel AvivHapoel Petach TikvaMaccabi HaifaMaccabi NetanyaMaccabi Tel AvivMaccabi Petach TikvaHapoel Kfar SabaBnei YehudaGive your'e opinion about israeli ultras.
La Familia - November 11, 2006 11:39 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (GA02 @ Nov 10 2006, 06:38 PM) |
| QUOTE (BeitarUltras @ Feb 7 2006, 11:14 AM) | ultras maccabi copy their materilas and her banners,but green apes too. even the songs is theirs they copyists.
green apes & ultras maccabi is bulshit,but my favorire is ultras maccabi because him don't sneakers for police!
Ultras Lions Den 4 Ever!
the green apes copyists deposit G roys carriage Maccabi Haifa Hizballa! |
bla bla bla you have no songs!!! just 2-3 songs 3 words in any songs
songs like i love you beitar yalla yalla beitar
and this is all
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you don't know nothing, in tv you hear mostly this songs because they alwats lower our voice, but we have 4 new songs this season and a lot of songs you don't know... and i really don't give a **** what songs you have...
ultra2000 - November 11, 2006 02:31 PM (GMT)
Stop talking bullshit!
And come to game against Croatia !
United we will beat them!
La Familia - November 11, 2006 02:36 PM (GMT)
Ultras2000, a fan of which team are you?
I bought a ticket with my cousin to gate 13... it's a shit gate, but it's the cheapst what can i do... =|
ultras hapoel - November 12, 2006 07:50 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (vi_R_us @ Oct 29 2006, 01:59 AM) |
???????????????
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in israel is 6 main ultras groups: Ultras hapoel 99, Ultras maccabi 96,The 12 player,sub11,La familia,and green apes. I now that its nathing compere the ultras groups in italy or most of europe, but what is done in israel cannot be seen any where in the world. :pir

ultra2000 - November 12, 2006 07:54 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (La Familia @ Nov 11 2006, 02:36 PM) |
Ultras2000, a fan of which team are you? I bought a ticket with my cousin to gate 13... it's a shit gate, but it's the cheapst what can i do... =| |
maccabi kiryat-gat ;) telling u something?
yes me and my freinds will bee on this gate too.
GA02 - November 13, 2006 02:08 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (La Familia @ Nov 11 2006, 01:39 PM) |
| QUOTE (GA02 @ Nov 10 2006, 06:38 PM) | | QUOTE (BeitarUltras @ Feb 7 2006, 11:14 AM) | ultras maccabi copy their materilas and her banners,but green apes too. even the songs is theirs they copyists.
green apes & ultras maccabi is bulshit,but my favorire is ultras maccabi because him don't sneakers for police!
Ultras Lions Den 4 Ever!
the green apes copyists deposit G roys carriage Maccabi Haifa Hizballa! |
bla bla bla you have no songs!!! just 2-3 songs 3 words in any songs
songs like i love you beitar yalla yalla beitar
and this is all
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you don't know nothing, in tv you hear mostly this songs because they alwats lower our voice, but we have 4 new songs this season and a lot of songs you don't know... and i really don't give a **** what songs you have...
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in tv ?!
in the stadium !!!
La Familia - November 16, 2006 08:34 PM (GMT)
And they say Beitar fans are dumb... <_<
Just to let you know, Romanian ultras is way better then ours unfourtenyly.
La Familia - November 16, 2006 08:36 PM (GMT)
ultra2000 - November 20, 2006 08:18 PM (GMT)
Very good clip of Maccabi Tel-Aviv Tifo in the last derbi...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le4PMp6LV64
Brann - November 20, 2006 08:29 PM (GMT)
Interview with La Familia (Beitar Jerusalem-Isreal)
UT: Hi Itzik! First introduce yourself, please!My name is Itzik, I am a fan of Beitar Jerusalem and i am an active member (a drummer) in our group La FamiliaUT:Please tell us a bit history of your group.Our group is quiet new. After we had a group ULTRAS Lions Den that has fall apart in 2003 because of fighting over money, In 2005 some people from curva has decided to bring together La Familia (it means the family in spanish). For a new group we have made nice chores until now.UT:Are there other ultra groups from your team?No, there was an underground group called the Tradition Keepers but they stopped doing stuff. La Familia controls all of our curva and is welcomed by almost everybody.UT:What do other fans from your team mean about your group? Do they like the way you support or has it been any problems?There hasn't been problems by now, the only thing we care is singing, and making tifo shows so that don't intrupt no body.UT:You say your group have made some nice tifo-showes. Which one do you mean was the best? You have a picture of it?Well, I don't know if that was the best but it surly was the one i liked the most. It was show for Beitar existing for 70 years.
Here is a picture:
UT: How is your own relation to the club? My relation to my club is very powerful, i grow up and i live in Jerusalem and everybody here is crazy for Beitar. It's a city of football. I started going to picthes in the age of 12 until today. In this summer we even went to Bulgaria and Romania for our matches against Dinamo Bucaresti. (Our home game was in Bulgaria for security issues).UT:Have your group a good relationship with your club?Our group has really good relationship with the club, we talk with the owner, and we even made a giant flag for him... UT:Do your group have problems with the police?Yes, the police in jerusalem is by far the hardest police. A lot of our active members get bans from football over the year, but the bans here are for maximum a year. All of football fans in israel hate those bastards. A.C.A.B!UT:Politic, is that something your group care about?Our group is right-wing. we usually care only about our team and group, but since Beitar Jerusalem was founded (1936) there hasn't been an arab player in the team and the fans are trying to keep it that way.UT:How many members do you have? Can everybody become a member?We about 50-70 active members (Pyro, chores and stuff), and more 250 active members. Everyone who gives money for the regsteration is a member.UT:Who is your biggest enemies and friends?I'll start with our friends... Well we don't have any. "No Body Likes Us, We Don't Care!". We Use to be friends with the crowd of Bnei Yehuda (Another Israeli team), but then they brought an arab player, we tissed them and from there on we fight a lot. About our enemys the biggest are the 2 Tel aviv teams: Hapoel and Maccabi bastards.
We have problems with Hapoel and Maccabi since for ever all most. We fight with Maccabi, Hapoel usually runs. We Also Hate Maccabi Haifa but they are the biggest cowerds, they run like chickens.UT:How do your group organise away games and tifosi?Well we usually steal Torches from the port. Or that we buy, but usually we don't. we make other tifosi by phone with our more active members, We set a place, make sure we have all of the things we need (colors, fabric) and then we get to work.UT:Every group has targets for the future, what are your targets?Our target is too improve our shows, to improve the singing- and wer'e maybe planing on moving a curva because of some reasons.UT:Most of us know the situation Isreal have with war and terror problems, does that have a influence at your groups work, games and away games?The world press is really made a storm in a glass of water.
The situation isn't that bad. We had a "Mini-War" with Lebanon which ended before 2 monthes. But the war wasn't in all of Israel only in the north (far from Jerusalem). Now the army fights with the Palasthinains terrorist, and they bomb a small town called Shderot but besides that the rest of Israel is safe like all of Europe. The Palasthinains use to send people to bomb there self in buses and other places but the Military thank god has stopped that. That dosen't affect us at all.UT:Can you give us some info about the ultra scene in Isreal? Who do you mean have the best group and support?I wrote a full topic about that which explains everything:http://z6.invisionfree.com/UltrasTifosi/in...?showtopic=4347UT:What ultra-scene is your group inspired of?La Familia is sort of a mix of europian Ultras and Bara Bravas from Argentina. Our crowd reminds me of Boca Juniurs (Of course were not good as them but you know what I mean).UT:Any last words to our members?This is great community, and a great forum...
Liberta' Per Gli ULTRAS!!!Thanks to our member "La Famila" (Itzik) for this interview! Ultras-tifo wish you good luck in the future :bye [/QUOTE]
La Familia - November 23, 2006 12:04 PM (GMT)
Thanks a lot mate,
I loves doing the interview.
If someone has more questions about the group or the Israeli Ultras scene I would love to answer your'e questions. B)
La Familia - November 26, 2006 11:08 AM (GMT)
The last show of La Familia:
Klubszene - November 28, 2006 04:11 PM (GMT)
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Our group is right-wing. we usually care only about our team and group, but since Beitar Jerusalem was founded (1936) there hasn't been an arab player in the team and the fans are trying to keep it that way.
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this is not something that i would be very proud of.
:nope
ultra2000 - November 28, 2006 07:30 PM (GMT)
La Familia - November 30, 2006 10:35 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Klubszene @ Nov 28 2006, 04:11 PM) |
| QUOTE | Our group is right-wing. we usually care only about our team and group, but since Beitar Jerusalem was founded (1936) there hasn't been an arab player in the team and the fans are trying to keep it that way.
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this is not something that i would be very proud of. :nope
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That's just the way we got use to it.
I'm not racist, and i'm very discusted with racism against jews,
But arab players hate us, and we hate them.
razo1979e - December 18, 2006 12:17 PM (GMT)
The last game of maccabi haifa vs maccabi tel aviv
Green Apes 2002:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9fse30gb1UThe last game of maccabi haifa vs beitar jerusalem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs5o90IKu6g...related&search=Haifa's derby - two years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgxI8Y6JNFs&mode=user&search=Maccabi haifa vs maccabi tel aviv - 3 years ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_pHiM4RqCwMaccabi haifa vs maccabi tel aviv - 3 years ago - other game:
http://www.crazyone.co.il/msites/crazyone/...yer.aspx?id=924It's only a little bit from Green Apes 2002 tifosi
cootje - December 18, 2006 01:14 PM (GMT)
I know that the secene is pretty good in israel!
We have friendship with MTA!!
Juve Leo Holanda - December 22, 2006 11:23 PM (GMT)
Every groups has their points, I dont agree with it but I respect that!
Nice interview!
hasan1903 - January 3, 2007 11:12 PM (GMT)
İsrael have a good ultra scene and i think they are one of the maişn countries that will improve even more in the next years
hasan1903 - January 3, 2007 11:17 PM (GMT)
İsrael have a good ultra scene and i think they are one of the maişn countries that will improve even more in the next years
i like Maccabi Haifa most in İsrael
ultras hapoel - January 7, 2007 01:39 PM (GMT)
tbhf06 - January 12, 2007 09:25 AM (GMT)
Tomorrow you will see a real audience ( even if we lose) :si
F*uck Jerusalem :tong
Dudi - January 13, 2007 09:19 AM (GMT)
timon zamalkawe - April 14, 2007 06:16 PM (GMT)
but in egypt we have a good ultras like ultras withe knights((zlu)) go 2 see uoer tefo man thanxXx :alien:
ultras hapoel - April 28, 2007 01:55 PM (GMT)
you cant compare the ultras in israel and the choreos to the "fans" in egypt!
La Familia - May 4, 2007 05:48 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tbhf06 @ Jan 12 2007, 09:25 AM) |
Tomorrow you will see a real audience ( even if we lose) :si
F*uck Jerusalem :tong |
Yeah, like the silence you were in the last game in your dump ground...
You don't no even what your trieng to copy, you go with burbarry caps, ultras shirts and sing like bara bravas god damn it deside what you want to be
your just a crowd of success and we piss on you
after the game, 7 injured from haifa, 2 stabbed and 2 drums were taken... your just fags coming 60 to fight and then stay 20 you should be awarded with a gold medal for 100 m run...