I heared that the Fossa dei Leonie dissolved thereself the reasons are only speculations. That no rumour !

Perhaps you discuss this topic, because it´s one of the famest groups in europe!

Why?

the are great the make beautiful coreografies :blink:

*topic moved to Italian zone*

Where did you hear that Phippo? And what was the reason given? Banner stolen? If it's true, it would be terrible news for tifo-lovers all over the world. This group has contributed without any doubt to the best tifosi in the whole world...

I just checked their website, its saying that the next to games that they are going to watch is on 20/11 and 23/11.. So I think it's a joke, we'll see...

I don't know about dissolve of FDL but i heared that fans of Milan lost the oldest away flag-FOSSA. In Italy this is tradition when fansgroup lose flag they dissolve group. How will do Fossa dei Leoni?
This flag conqured one of Juve group from... Milan-VIKING JUVE. I heared it was that: alone fan of Milan was watched after match PSV-Milan. Fans of Juve were in two cars and catched this fan with flag in a bag. After this action fans of Milan go for a police:blink: beacause one of Juve fan had a knife.

Yes I know that tradition, so I'm curious if it's true... Many groups have already dissolved themselves because of this tradition... Let's hope it isn't true...

If they leave their group Im sure they will make a new one and get more great tifo, but its very sad if they dissolve thereself!

They have!

My Webpage

This is a sad day! :o

Holy shit!

Oooooooh my god! I can't believe it! :dro

This is sad, very sad for tifo-lovers and the members of the group... And what a victory for the Juve-fans, they just finished one of the biggest Ultra-groups from Italy... Let's hope a new group will stand up, maybe BRN will become better...

37 years gone :(

damn that suck, but Im sure they will show us good tifo from another group very soon!

btw, you think they will make fights against the group that stole their banner? :unsure: Im afraid it will be some big fights there now, many people had much feelings for this group.

I am so chocked. Its not the tifos that matter, its the culture! So old, they were one of the oldest groups in Italy!

Rest In Peace Fossa Dei Leoni :bye

Oh my god that's terrible news! I knew it from the stolen banner but it's really sad that they disolved theirself now.. :(

very sad that this has to happen... however the story a bout the knives et cetera from the Viking is not correct I have heard...

Read something that the group of Viking Juve was waiting op that guy of fdl that guy was coming from the match PSV - AC Milan :nope

A disaster for Tifo in the world, they we're probably one of the best tifo's groups/ultras. Let's hope they make a new, inspired choreo's and even better tifo'. Bye Fosse dei Leoni.

Pity that they disolved theirself, but I think they will make there way at other fanclubs or something like that.


Congratulations to Viking Juve!

First FDL found two flags of Viking Juve, who lost them close to the stadium in Milano. In the game between Milan and Juve FDL showed the two flags, which is against the (unwritten) rules in Italy, that say u can only show properly STOLEN flags, so this was a stupid action.

Then Viking Juve stole the away banner of FDL, speculations say they were ten against one, with knives etc, but that might be bollocks of course. Anyway, this was a great victory for Viking.

However, apparently both groups decided to give back their belongings. So FDL gave back the two flags, and Viking gave back the banner.

Couple of pics to proove that :

Flags of Viking back where they belong :



FDL banner back :

So what was stolen from Fossa? Their first banner or just their away-banner? I thought that the tradition was to dissolve themselves if they lost their first banner...

Thats what i thought too...They got their away banner stolen not their first one!FDL were one of my most favorite groups inMilan!RIP FDL

Grazie a tutti...:'(

I heard that they also had some problems insite the group!

Damn, this news sucks...
I liked them.. It's very strange and sad. Maybe BRN can take over :aight
Against Udinese they had a (new) Fossa banner...

No It was the old banner. They gave the flags back to Juve and FDL got their banner.

RIP FDL!

Official statement:

My Webpage

:(

I think the Curva Sud of MIland lost a good group, but they don´t lost the good TIFOs !

And about the facts a friend of me from Italy from MIlan inform me this evening so i will write tomorrow a small report about the happenings and the reasons by disolving FdL !

I hope you could wait! ;)

I am waiting ;)

I think the old members will start a new group in Curva Sud. No way in heaven they will join BR. Even if FDL doesn´t exist anymore I think Milan will have a coreo next match against Inter. The members hasnt died, they are just out of ag groupname. The same persons can meet and make the coreos this year. :rolleyes:

The banners got back and the groups still show them? Can't imagine that. Ain't it so that stolen banners will not be shown again even if you got them back because they have been dishonoured? Heard in Italy it is handled like that. At least in Germany it is use that these banners do not hang anymore because of that.

Hi sorry i see that you are still waiting, but i haven´t received an e-mail by my italian connection, but he want to write whne he come from work!...so you must wait alittle bit more...or you search for another source :ai

Well now i have the answer of your questions :) :

T first i want to write down the communicati of Viking Juve :

We wait to the end of the happenings concerning the presentation of 2 of our banners in the Curva Sud Milan.

We were ready to drive to Lecce away game on Saturday 22.10.05
And we forgot two banners in a bag in front of our material depot.

This bag includes 2 Viking Juve banners which were found by MIlanisti!
In the match of Milan this both flags were preseted by FdL .

In the above mentioned match on 29.10.05 we must see with abomination that the
FdL presented material of us, which are not captured in a fight (in Italy it´s an unwritten law, flags which be presented must be caputerd in a fight and not found)!
Also some persons in the Curva Sud of Milan said that we runaway from Milanisti and than we lost the banner! Ridiculus!

It´s not our Mentality to run away and left our banner!

In our history of 20 years, nobody could say that they capture a flag,banner or whatever!

After their dishonorable act , to show banners which are founded.
We contact the capis from Curva Sud to get us the banners back within 3 days!
Because they gain than only dishonorable !

After 3 days no reaction from Milanisti, so we do it with our methods and suddenly
we captured the Fossa away banner!

At the next day the DIGOS (SpecialForce of Police) controll the appartment of well-known members of Viking Juve which live in Milan to find the banners!
....

End

After this action they banners were changed.

Ok this Communicati of you explain very much, but that´s not all!

Also the Fossa had longer problems in the interior like the most bigger groups,with the components money and the power !

After finding the two banners some people assert that they have won the banners in a fight so FdL decide to show the banner!
The reason why the people assert this is to gain honour by the leaders.

After a couple of hours they found out that the banners were "only" found and not captured! Than start troubles in Fossa!
Also some members talk to the Police and than the situation going more badly.
...also with other groups like ARN,BRN,Commados...

After this heavy happenings they decide to dissolved the group!

Pff this is high level tifo talk :)

I guess the atmosphere in the Ultra-group wasn't so good as we thought. Those people who said that they had stolen the banners, shouldn't have done that, it's pathetic and now look the result of it... :aight

So Phippo, you say the groupe ended because of problems inside? And not because of the stolen fossa-banner?

At first i said nothing, it´s that what i´ve heared !

But i think both things are reason of the dissolving their group, but the problem with money and power is in Italy especially in the bigger groups with over 1000 member, because there are not so many friendships like in smaller groups and you don´t know all the people.
Also the marketing is a big problem in Italy...

Both aspects are reasons of the dissolve the group, but the Curva Sud is still alive, and it would be very interesting to see what happened the next months.

Hope that i could answer your question JuveLeo!

so the banner was stolen in holland mayby the lads of fcdh know more

So please read the communicati of Viking Juve...

Thanks for your text Phippo, it's much more clear now..
Indead it's just stupid of that Fossa-members that they claimed that they did get the flags in a fight.. <_<

INNO FOSSA DEI LEONI

Leoni armati
stiam marciando
siam la FOSSA DEI LEON...
dei..leon..leon..leon...
leon...leon...
siam la FOSSA DEI LEON!!!
sangue ! violenza!
FOSSA DEI LEONI!!!
Milan! Milan! Milan!

Audio file; http://www.brigaterossonere.it/cori_mp3/Cu...0Inno%20FDL.mp3

Collettivo Autonomo Viola honor to the Fossa

Nice.. ;)
Can anybody translate the text?

Onore alla Fossa:
Honor to Fossa, already translated by Adg but oke ;)