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OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 12:37 PM (GMT)
Hello everybody ! I wanna tell you about situation between Gravediggers Belgrade (Partizan ultras) ..

We are couple months in fight with Alcatraz(main group) . Our story is supported by almost all Belgrade Gravediggers groups and around the country.

First reason why we start fight with Alcatraz is that because they work with police.
Second reason is that because they steal money from other fans, they say tickets for away game is more expensive(and they get free tickets) , bus is more expensive and other things just to take money...
One of leader Alcatraz group was leader of Red Star group, that is unacceptable, that was never in our history !!!
We fight with them in one of Serbian city when we was on trip, and we beat them they run away from stadium and left flags and drums, we take that,As they were not ashamed to show up again on stadium ???

The point is we are much stronger,but they work with police and police dont let us to go to our stadium,Police arrest any of our guys who try to enter the stadium, that is shame !
We try 10 times to enter the stadium but police stopped us 5km from stadium and occupy us so that we can not go anywhere.We just love our Partizan and we live for Partizan ,and they live for money , they dont care about Partizan results and future !

The Court did not forbid us,we all buy tickets for game we just wanna go to north or east place stadium and try to bring other fans with us ,but Alcatraz says police "Dont let them enter the stadium" , because they know if we enter the stadium they will go down...
We think that is shame for every ultras in the world,we just wanna our fight. Anyone with a little hooligan considence knows that we should be allowed to enter the stadium.

Im sorry about my english, its not so good I hope you understand and I hope you support us in our fight ! STOP Alcatraz ! STOP Police !


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/img9239v.jpg/
Corteo to the stadium..

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/img9210e.jpg/
Police stop us and arrest couple main ppl.


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/c...7437904929.jpg/
Partizan - Genk We are 200 meters from stadium,but police stopped us there and occupy us,we couldnt go anywhere !
On this picture one of leader shows tickets for the match,and the banners is "Zabranjeni" (Forbidden). Tommorow we come with lawyer and we say ppl in our administration to return money from our tickets.. All money(if they return) goes to charity and kids on Kosovo !


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/c...7437904596.jpg/
FORBIDDEN !
One guy from police says "You cannot enter the stadium even if you all hang up here"

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/c...7437905263.jpg/
On this photo we all show police that we have tickets but they say "I know you have tickets and i dont care , you cannot enter the stadium."


Anyway,our guys who was that night on stadium says that one guy from alcatraz(main group) stand at the entrance and checking who will enter the stadium,so if he see one of our guys he say to police and police arrest him.
Little group of real Gravediggers enter north side stadium , after they enter police start recording with video camera and send to that side of stadium more security...

One more time sorry about my English, i cant speak and write good!
We just cannot sit in chair and look how one group(alcatraz) destroy all other Gravediggers. We hope you understand our fight !

No retreat - no surrender until the final victory ! Forbidden !


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PIRODS89 - August 13, 2011 01:18 PM (GMT)
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6JniqheG7k&feature=youtu.be[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R1NoVDYRhs&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

Semper Fidelis - August 13, 2011 01:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (PIRODS89 @ Aug 13 2011, 03:18 PM)
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R1NoVDYRhs&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

the commentators :lol: :lol: :lol:

PIRODS89 - August 13, 2011 01:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Semper Fidelis @ Aug 13 2011, 01:21 PM)
QUOTE (PIRODS89 @ Aug 13 2011, 03:18 PM)
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R1NoVDYRhs&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

the commentators :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Ajde ajde kaci vise"

"Evo uzimaju neki metal"

"Palite sve"

ahahhahah
:D :D

OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 01:34 PM (GMT)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/p7070327.jpg/
We was on training before match with Genk in CL to support our players,because we are forbidden at our stadium !

This first flag is Zabranjeni(Forbidden) You can see how our players hold this flag..

Flag behind is Grobari http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/grobari11.jpg/sr=1 ,we take that flag from Alcatraz(currently main group) when we fight with them on away game in Serbian league.. I dont know how they have pride to show up next game like main group ? They loose MAIN GROBARI FLAG,this flag is 20yrs old and they loose it !!?? Flag is down,you go home and cry...


PropagandaPanda - August 13, 2011 01:48 PM (GMT)
NEVER SURRENDER REAL GROBARI!!! 1312 !!! NO BU$INE$$ULTRA$

1312-FRFC - August 13, 2011 01:56 PM (GMT)
So you are a group of Grobari also but you fight the biggest group Alcatraz because their leader was first a Red Star leader. And they take away money from other fans and work together with the police. Is that correct?

And how are the fights? You really beat them till they are heavy wounded or what?

OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 03:05 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (1312-FRFC @ Aug 13 2011, 01:56 PM)
So you are a group of Grobari also but you fight the biggest group Alcatraz because their leader was first a Red Star leader. And they take away money from other fans and work together with the police. Is that correct?

And how are the fights? You really beat them till they are heavy wounded or what?

There is many reason why we want remove Alcatraz from our stadium..

One of reasons is that because we want to bring back the old look to our tribune,because never in history Grobari didnt make any choreography,we dont want to look nice on tribune,our motto is Throat palms scarves and pyrotechnics... During the rule of "Alcatraz" on our tribune we dont have any hooligans actions,we didnt take any flag from any other hooligans group, they just stand in the first row and cant wait finish of game. They dont care about Partizan,they dont sing any song,Standing in the first row and criminals acting that is Alcatraz... Our tribune now is full of supporters...
We are humiliated many times in last 1year by Delije(Red Star fans).
They take 3 Grobari flag at intervals of 2 months,and Alcatraz want conciliation with Delije... We dont wanna accept that, because Delije is our biggest enemy EVER !

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/01mp5.jpg/sr=1
This is real Grobari,we dont want choreography and other shiny things,We want madness to every game as has been all these years,before Alcatraz.

We just want to enter the stadium on north side or east or west side of our stadium,and we know all people from South will come with us,because nobody like Alcatraz! What they do is not fair..They dont want to leave stadium and Partizan because for them Partizan is golden well or source of money...
We have our old saying : Everything for Partizan , from Partizan nothing !


Im sorry again for my English... I Hope you will understand this..


OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 03:13 PM (GMT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80_RI8Nt7nc

Our group on Partizan training.. Flag : Forbidden

http://www.dodaj.rs/f/46/Ax/4y2jj9CR/paok.jpg

Our flag forbidden on Paok game.. Thanks for support brothers!

Stop police ! Stop alcatraz ! Stop modern football !

OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 03:38 PM (GMT)
One more thing.. They(alcatraz) forbade the setting group flags on the tribune..

http://casopis.izaberipartizan.com/v2/img/.../1310610070.jpg
This is current look of South fence..

http://casopis.izaberipartizan.com/v2/img/.../1271636008.jpg
This is how it should look !


LocoSRB - August 13, 2011 03:47 PM (GMT)
That main flag grobari was a flag of grobari beograd they are now frobiden

OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 03:54 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (LocoSRB @ Aug 13 2011, 03:47 PM)
That main flag grobari was a flag of grobari beograd they are now frobiden

That flag was in Subotica on match when we start fight with alcatraz... And we take flag back..

OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 03:59 PM (GMT)
Btw. Grobari Beograd is one of biggest group on South.. They are forbidden now.. Forbidden groups: Young Boys,South Family,Vandal Boys,Koalicija,Opozicija BGD, Fontana,Grobari Beograd,and part of group Juzni Front..

PIRODS89 - August 13, 2011 04:23 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (1312-FRFC @ Aug 13 2011, 01:56 PM)
So you are a group of Grobari also but you fight the biggest group Alcatraz because their leader was first a Red Star leader. And they take away money from other fans and work together with the police. Is that correct?

And how are the fights? You really beat them till they are heavy wounded or what?

He was not Red Star leader he was leader of small group called "Our Thing"

bitanga - August 13, 2011 04:33 PM (GMT)
iznositi prljav ves preko interneta nije pametna stvar
to je vasa unutrasnja stvar,resite je kako znate izmedju sebe
a i sto neki stranac mora da zna sta se tu desava a ne moze da ukapira ili da se nasladjuje
svako cita ovo,ispadate neozbiljna grupa


OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 04:34 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (PIRODS89 @ Aug 13 2011, 04:23 PM)
QUOTE (1312-FRFC @ Aug 13 2011, 01:56 PM)
So you are a group of Grobari also but you fight the biggest group Alcatraz because their leader was first a Red Star leader. And they take away money from other fans and work together with the police. Is that correct?

And how are the fights? You really beat them till they are heavy wounded or what?

He was not Red Star leader he was leader of small group called "Our Thing"

He wounded with a knife couple guys from Grobari, and after all this he is leader of alcatraz and Grobari ... ?? WTF !?

Btw.. Delije group Our Thing was very strong and very respected on North side.

OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 04:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (bitanga @ Aug 13 2011, 04:33 PM)
iznositi prljav ves preko interneta nije pametna stvar
to je vasa unutrasnja stvar,resite je kako znate izmedju sebe
a i sto neki stranac mora da zna sta se tu desava a ne moze da ukapira ili da se nasladjuje
svako cita ovo,ispadate neozbiljna grupa

Brate mi drugog nacina nemamo.. Kako drugacije ? Da oni imaju imalo navijacke svesti ne bi nam branili da udjemo na stadion i ne bi naredjivali policiji da nas hapse na 5km od stadiona... Nije postena borba sa njihove strane,znas i sam da su samo oni ostali na Jugu.. Sve najjace grupe su nase,toga ih je i strah pa se ovako nekorektno ponasaju.

Zelimir Vidovic-Keli - August 13, 2011 06:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 13 2011, 04:36 PM)
QUOTE (bitanga @ Aug 13 2011, 04:33 PM)
iznositi prljav ves preko interneta nije pametna stvar
to je vasa unutrasnja stvar,resite je kako znate izmedju sebe
a i sto neki stranac mora da zna sta se tu desava a ne moze da ukapira ili da se nasladjuje
svako cita ovo,ispadate neozbiljna grupa

Brate mi drugog nacina nemamo.. Kako drugacije ? Da oni imaju imalo navijacke svesti ne bi nam branili da udjemo na stadion i ne bi naredjivali policiji da nas hapse na 5km od stadiona... Nije postena borba sa njihove strane,znas i sam da su samo oni ostali na Jugu.. Sve najjace grupe su nase,toga ih je i strah pa se ovako nekorektno ponasaju.

Ako bi mogao da mi pustis personal message oko jedne stvari,ko je Alcatrazu iza ledja(mislim na ekipe juga a ne policiju).Cuo sam od vise ljudi da nije sam Alcatraz u ovome.Podrzavam vid borbe svakog ultrasa protiv onih koji prljaju pokret,to je kod vas nekada bio Juzni Front nadam se da cete barem vi imati muda i srca da dovrsite njihov posao.

OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 07:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Zelimir Vidovic-Keli @ Aug 13 2011, 06:47 PM)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 13 2011, 04:36 PM)
QUOTE (bitanga @ Aug 13 2011, 04:33 PM)
iznositi prljav ves preko interneta nije pametna stvar
to je vasa unutrasnja stvar,resite je kako znate izmedju sebe
a i sto neki stranac mora da zna sta se tu desava a ne moze da ukapira ili da se nasladjuje
svako cita ovo,ispadate neozbiljna grupa

Brate mi drugog nacina nemamo.. Kako drugacije ? Da oni imaju imalo navijacke svesti ne bi nam branili da udjemo na stadion i ne bi naredjivali policiji da nas hapse na 5km od stadiona... Nije postena borba sa njihove strane,znas i sam da su samo oni ostali na Jugu.. Sve najjace grupe su nase,toga ih je i strah pa se ovako nekorektno ponasaju.

Ako bi mogao da mi pustis personal message oko jedne stvari,ko je Alcatrazu iza ledja(mislim na ekipe juga a ne policiju).Cuo sam od vise ljudi da nije sam Alcatraz u ovome.Podrzavam vid borbe svakog ultrasa protiv onih koji prljaju pokret,to je kod vas nekada bio Juzni Front nadam se da cete barem vi imati muda i srca da dovrsite njihov posao.

To je ideja Juznog Fronta u pravu si,samo je greska sto tada ta ideja nije izgurana do kraja,i zato ako se ovo sad ne resi svakih 5-10 godina cemo imati ovakvu situaciju na Jugu...Nazalost ni Juzni Front nije sada sto je bio, dosta momaka iz tadasnje ekipe se povuklo,dosta grupa se rasturilo,trenutni stav tih ljudi koji su "glavni" u Juznom Frontu je da su neutrali,mada je dosta ljudi iz te ekipe uz nas.

OpozicijaPFC - August 13, 2011 07:25 PM (GMT)
We decided that today we will NOT trying to enter the stadium. We were in the Church and lit candles for all Grobari who are no longer with us..

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/fotoul.png/

banner: And on the sky real Grobari army,who gave their lives for Partizan !

OTH - August 13, 2011 07:39 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 13 2011, 03:59 PM)
Btw. Grobari Beograd is one of biggest group on South.. They are forbidden now.. Forbidden groups: Young Boys,South Family,Vandal Boys,Koalicija,Opozicija BGD, Fontana,Grobari Beograd,and part of group Juzni Front..

Then these groups must get together and smash the pub where many alcatraz are drinking before and after the game.

mostafany1 - August 13, 2011 08:53 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 13 2011, 09:25 PM)
We decided that today we will NOT trying to enter the stadium. We were in the Church and lit candles for all Grobari who are no longer with us..

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/707/fotoul.png/

banner: And on the sky real Grobari army,who gave their lives for Partizan !

who do you mean by that ?

Undertaker - August 13, 2011 09:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 13 2011, 01:34 PM)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/p7070327.jpg/
We was on training before match with Genk in CL to support our players,because we are forbidden at our stadium !

This first flag is Zabranjeni(Forbidden) You can see how our players hold this flag..

Flag behind is Grobari http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/grobari11.jpg/sr=1 ,we take that flag from Alcatraz(currently main group) when we fight with them on away game in Serbian league.. I dont know how they have pride to show up next game like main group ? They loose MAIN GROBARI FLAG,this flag is 20yrs old and they loose it !!?? Flag is down,you go home and cry...

Cekaj, ovu zastavu su nosili Grobari Beograd. I nije stara 20 godina, pojavila se prvi put tamo 2001. ili 2002.

user posted image

PMWkokaina - August 13, 2011 09:47 PM (GMT)
Btw: Alcatraz they are the weapon gentlemen of the real football factory documentary? And the leader of this group was a ex-leader of a group from zvezda? i understand this correct??? :blink:

LocoSRB - August 13, 2011 10:10 PM (GMT)
First I am not of any sides of this war
That guy that was ex-delije have never been capo or leader.he is just an alcatraz member.
Opozijica are yb sf f kc gb vb there are no sub group called opozicija.
Alcatraz didn't banned you from coming to stadium club did because you was talking on internet and on training of FC that you will make some riots on Partizan Genk and we all know what will happened if grobari make some incident in Europe.
You was talking about fair fight and you burnd caffe of guy that is in ALCZ and stabbed one guy
grobari su braca zavrsite ovo sranje vec jednom

NebitnoBraleSkroz - August 13, 2011 10:40 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 13 2011, 04:36 PM)
QUOTE (bitanga @ Aug 13 2011, 04:33 PM)
iznositi prljav ves preko interneta nije pametna stvar
to je vasa unutrasnja stvar,resite je kako znate izmedju sebe
a i sto neki stranac mora da zna sta se tu desava a ne moze da ukapira ili da se nasladjuje
svako cita ovo,ispadate neozbiljna grupa

Brate mi drugog nacina nemamo.. Kako drugacije ? Da oni imaju imalo navijacke svesti ne bi nam branili da udjemo na stadion i ne bi naredjivali policiji da nas hapse na 5km od stadiona... Nije postena borba sa njihove strane,znas i sam da su samo oni ostali na Jugu.. Sve najjace grupe su nase,toga ih je i strah pa se ovako nekorektno ponasaju.

Sta hoces da postignes, ovim pisanjem!?
Ocekujes da te stranci zale? Da te podrze parolom? Sta ocekujes?
Mnogo glup potez, sa vase strane..

NebitnoBraleSkroz - August 13, 2011 10:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (LocoSRB @ Aug 13 2011, 10:10 PM)
Opozijica are yb sf f kc gb

Nisu te grupe koje si nabrojao "Opozicija"..
Opozicija je isto pod grupa..



OpozicijaPFC - August 14, 2011 04:37 AM (GMT)
Prvo: U zastavu "Grobari" imaju svi udela,ta zastava je prakticno ostavljena u Subotici i data je Grobarima Beograd.
A ne znam cemu provokacije, necemo da nas niko zali ali kad ne mozemo nasu borbu da isteramo na stadion moramo negde drugo.
Molim ljude koji nemaju nikakve veze sa tribinom da ne progovaraju i ne pisu provokativne postove na racun nase borbe. Svaki Srpski navijac zna ko je alcatraz i zna sta se desava na Juznoj tribini i protiv koga se mi borimo. Nemojte da pisete ukoliko niste deo navijacke grupe i ukoliko niste upuceni u trenutnu situaciju. Hvala ! Zabranjeni PFC !

OpozicijaPFC - August 14, 2011 04:44 AM (GMT)
Svako prica svoju pricu... Ne znam zasto svima smeta nasa borba?

OpozicijaPFC - August 14, 2011 04:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (LocoSRB @ Aug 13 2011, 10:10 PM)
First I am not of any sides of this war
That guy that was ex-delije have never been capo or leader.he is just an alcatraz member.
Opozijica are yb sf f kc gb vb there are no sub group called opozicija.
Alcatraz didn't banned you from coming to stadium club did because you was talking on internet and on training of FC that you will make some riots on Partizan Genk and we all know what will happened if grobari make some incident in Europe.
You was talking about fair fight and you burnd caffe of guy that is in ALCZ and stabbed one guy
grobari su braca zavrsite ovo sranje vec jednom

And you believe in that story ? We say on trainig that we just want enter stadium and support South side because Partizan is our life... If you dont know real story please stop posting...
That guy is one of strongest ppl in alcatraz now.
And Opozicija is new group. Please stop posting if you dont KNOW !

OpozicijaPFC - August 14, 2011 11:27 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Undertaker @ Aug 13 2011, 09:16 PM)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 13 2011, 01:34 PM)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/p7070327.jpg/
We was on training before match with Genk in CL to support our players,because we are forbidden at our stadium !

This first flag is Zabranjeni(Forbidden) You can see how our players hold this flag..

Flag behind is Grobari http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/grobari11.jpg/sr=1 ,we take that flag from Alcatraz(currently main group) when we fight with them on away game in Serbian league.. I dont know how they have pride to show up next game like main group ? They loose MAIN GROBARI FLAG,this flag is 20yrs old and they loose it !!?? Flag is down,you go home and cry...

Cekaj, ovu zastavu su nosili Grobari Beograd. I nije stara 20 godina, pojavila se prvi put tamo 2001. ili 2002.

user posted image

Vidis kolko ne znas ? Tu zastavu su svi zajedno pravili, samo sto je najvise bila kod Grobara Beograd ! A zastava je uzeta u Subotici i mi smo je prakticno poklonili Grobarima Beograd. Izmedju ostalog u Subotici su uzeti i bubnjevi.
A zastava nebitno kad je pravljena i da li je stara 20 godina ili 15 ili 10, ta zastava je jedna od najlepsih na nasoj tribini i to ne moze tek tako da se "zaboravi" na ogradi pa da je drugi pokupe,sta ce sledeci put da zaborave ?

NebitnoBraleSkroz - August 15, 2011 02:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 14 2011, 04:44 AM)
Svako prica svoju pricu... Ne znam zasto svima smeta nasa borba?

Znam da se vi vodite time, da smo inace vec dovoljno ponizeni. Pa pricate "otvoreno" sta se desava. Al' opet mislim da je glupo, objasnjavati strancima ko je "Prava Prica" u ovom sukobu.. Sta konkretno, ocekujete da postignete ovim pisanjem?

OpozicijaPFC - August 15, 2011 03:29 AM (GMT)
Da je srece ne bi trebalo da se objasnjava nikome vec bi svi znali o cemu se radi kada bi nas pustili na stadion. To jedno a drugo ne znam zasto se to prikriva da sukob postoji ? Treba li svima da zatvore oci da nema sukoba nikakvih i da su oni ti koji su "dobri" u ovoj prici. Zasto oni nas predstavljaju svuda kao narkomane itd a Kada mi krenemo da pricamo pricamo pravu pricu odma se dize galama,dokle da cutimo i da se pravimo da je sve normalno?

Undertaker - August 15, 2011 12:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 14 2011, 11:27 PM)
QUOTE (Undertaker @ Aug 13 2011, 09:16 PM)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 13 2011, 01:34 PM)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/p7070327.jpg/
We was on training before match with Genk in CL to support our players,because we are forbidden at our stadium !

This first flag is Zabranjeni(Forbidden) You can see how our players hold this flag..

Flag behind is Grobari http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/grobari11.jpg/sr=1 ,we take that flag from Alcatraz(currently main group) when we fight with them on away game in Serbian league.. I dont know how they have pride to show up next game like main group ? They loose MAIN GROBARI FLAG,this flag is 20yrs old and they loose it !!?? Flag is down,you go home and cry...

Cekaj, ovu zastavu su nosili Grobari Beograd. I nije stara 20 godina, pojavila se prvi put tamo 2001. ili 2002.

user posted image

Vidis kolko ne znas ? Tu zastavu su svi zajedno pravili, samo sto je najvise bila kod Grobara Beograd ! A zastava je uzeta u Subotici i mi smo je prakticno poklonili Grobarima Beograd. Izmedju ostalog u Subotici su uzeti i bubnjevi.
A zastava nebitno kad je pravljena i da li je stara 20 godina ili 15 ili 10, ta zastava je jedna od najlepsih na nasoj tribini i to ne moze tek tako da se "zaboravi" na ogradi pa da je drugi pokupe,sta ce sledeci put da zaborave ?

Sta podrazumevas pod svi? To je zastava koju je nekada nosila frakcija odvojena sa juga. Kad se deo te frakcije vratio na jug vratila se i zastava.

user posted image


PIRODS89 - August 15, 2011 01:51 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 13 2011, 04:34 PM)
QUOTE (PIRODS89 @ Aug 13 2011, 04:23 PM)
QUOTE (1312-FRFC @ Aug 13 2011, 01:56 PM)
So you are a group of Grobari also but you fight the biggest group Alcatraz because their leader was first a Red Star leader. And they take away money from other fans and work together with the police. Is that correct?

And how are the fights? You really beat them till they are heavy wounded or what?

He was not Red Star leader he was leader of small group called "Our Thing"

He wounded with a knife couple guys from Grobari, and after all this he is leader of alcatraz and Grobari ... ?? WTF !?

Btw.. Delije group Our Thing was very strong and very respected on North side.

They existed only for 1year on North and were not strong much.

OpozicijaPFC - August 15, 2011 04:28 PM (GMT)
Pa undertaker sto se pravis lud onda ? Prvo pises da su zastavu pravili samo Grobari Beograd pa onda sledeci post frakcija koja je odvojena od juga... Pusti provokacije ako imas nesto pametnije da pitas pitaj,dajemo sve odgovore,nismo cenzurisani kao jf forum.

Spalato - August 15, 2011 05:23 PM (GMT)
eurokremce koga ti podrzavas B) ? mos i na pm ako ne zelis ode

OpozicijaPFC - August 15, 2011 05:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Spalato @ Aug 15 2011, 05:23 PM)
eurokremce koga ti podrzavas B) ? mos i na pm ako ne zelis ode

Ultras No Profit ! to je prava prica !

eurokremce - August 15, 2011 07:06 PM (GMT)
@Spalato na ciju ja stranu stanem ti pobedjuju 100% B)
ajde kad su me vec prozvali da bacim koju.
mislim da je otvaranje ovde teme potpuni promasaj iz mnogo razloga neke su vec naveli, svako ko treba da zna odavno vec zna sta se desava. i nije bas sve tako crno belo kao sto ga vi predstavljate ,a jos manje kao sto oni to rade, ima nekih postupaka koje nemogu ni oni a ni vi da opravdate. ovo je ona lose-lose situacija u kojoj necete dobiti mnogo ni vi ni oni a najvise ce izgubiti partizan i grobarstvo, takodje jedan zacarani krug iz koga evo ko zna kolko godina nikako da izadjemo. i sta ce biti ako se stvari preokrenu sad u uzicu na gostovanju u vasu korist i vi nekim cudom dodjete na "vlast". iskulirace mozda alkatraz koji mesec,godinu dana dok se konsoliduju i onda opet jovo nanovo udri krsi pali lomi, brat na brata. mogao bih da se raspisujem ovde do sutra ali nevidim poentu.

Undertaker - August 15, 2011 08:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (OpozicijaPFC @ Aug 15 2011, 04:28 PM)
Pa undertaker sto se pravis lud onda ? Prvo pises da su zastavu pravili samo Grobari Beograd pa onda sledeci post frakcija koja je odvojena od juga... Pusti provokacije ako imas nesto pametnije da pitas pitaj,dajemo sve odgovore,nismo cenzurisani kao jf forum.

Ne provociram prijatelju, kolko ja znam tu zastavu su nosili (nisam nigde rekao da su je napravili) Grobari Beograd pa mi nije bilo jasno ovo sto si napisao, al ajde, mozda gresim, raspitacu se.

Grobari su braca.
Pozdrav.




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