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punkrock - June 10, 2009 11:01 AM (GMT)
kalhspera,
mia aporia pou exw kai den mou thn lunei kaneis.
epeidh h sxesh pou exw me to podosfairo kai thn omada mou ftanei mexri to pws tha kanw thn DIKH MOU omada megalh, kai pws tha dw thn dikh mou omada apo to ekastote petalo erxomai san asxetos me ton xwro na rwthsw:

autos pou asxoleitai apokleistika kai mono me thn omada tou (ekdromes, enhmerwsh, sthriksh, pania, sunthimata, otidipote enisxuei ena club telospantwn) einai ligotero opados apo auton pou kanei ntou se sundesmous, maxaironei filopoulous kai iliopoulous, kaiei me pursous allous opadous klp klp?

katalavainw oti ola ksekinane apo kapou, diladi an mou kanoun pesimo ston sindesmo oi x opadoi ennoeitai oti den tha katsw na kanw thn kota kai tha praksw analoga, apla mhpws xanetai h ousia? dhladh ultras einai oi tupoi sta petala h autoi me ta maderia ana xeiras?

sugxwrhste me gia tuxon "anohsies" pou mporei na entopisate sto thema mou, eimai sxetika neos sto xwro. ws twra mou arkouse ena 90lepto sto petalo kai merikes mpures, apla eipa na dw kai ligo parapera. tha thela na akousw sovares apopseis.

Melenios - June 10, 2009 12:38 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (punkrock @ Jun 10 2009, 11:01 AM)
mia aporia pou exw kai den mou thn lunei kaneis.
autos pou asxoleitai apokleistika kai mono me thn omada tou (ekdromes, enhmerwsh, sthriksh, pania, sunthimata, otidipote enisxuei ena club telospantwn) einai ligotero opados apo auton pou kanei ntou se sundesmous, maxaironei allous opadous klp klp?
tha thela na akousw sovares apopseis.

ennoeitai pws OXI...

to giati ginontai ta ypoloipa einai polyploko zitima...

marky21 - June 10, 2009 01:04 PM (GMT)
ka8olou opadiko den einai to na dernesai gia thn omada.kai sunh8ws ta perissotera atoma pou den xanoun ekdromh,den exoun sxesh me hooliganilikia kai epeisodia.

IRAKLIS GATE10 - June 10, 2009 01:07 PM (GMT)
..ta ntou se kleistous sindesmous kai ta pesimata 30 se 5 einai malakies..oi maxes sta isa einai antrikies kai ekei fenetai o kaliteros...kapoioi omws perniountai gia antrakia dinontas (maxes) pou einai sigouroi oti tha bgoun kerdismenoi.opws episis kai ta maxairia einai i apolith malakia!maxairi ston kwlo autounou pou to bgazei.

opados einai autos pou kanei osa eipes kai agapaei tin omada tou.alla fisika kai otan prepei krataei to onoma tou petalou perifano.

acab_athens - June 10, 2009 01:22 PM (GMT)
auto me ta maxairia exei paraginei ontws!italia tha katanthsoume!apo ekei kai pera opados einai na opws eipe kai o iraklis gate 10...twra auto gia ta pesimata einai allh kouventa.pantws den mporei na mhn thewrhthei kapoios opados h ultras (opws thes pes to) epeidh den mplekete se skhnika kai pesimata....

Only_White - June 10, 2009 03:18 PM (GMT)
AYTA EINAI TA OREA . o ka8enas tin agapi tou gia tin omada tin ekfrazei opos 8elei , esi gustareis na kunas simeoules kai na sikoneis xartonia kai ego na exo ena petalo gemato kafrus na beneis mesa kai na se psirizun ... gousta einai ayta ... to an apodiknieis an agapas tin omada sou etsi asto ... mporei apla na eisai mpaxalakias ... esi dialegeis ti 8a gineis ...
alla opos lene kai oi yg sto site tous , rantevu stous dromous?akoma kalitera.

marky21 - June 10, 2009 04:32 PM (GMT)
dhladh to psirisma apotelei meros ths agaphs pros thn omada?
eleos re paidia.
to ksulo pou peftei den exei kamia sxesh me thn uposthriksh kai thn agaph pros thn omada.

giorgaras - June 10, 2009 04:52 PM (GMT)
orea ta lete,kai simfono me olous oso de paei
alla oloi kserete oti opoios de honete se skinika theorite floros apo aytous pou honontai,kai genika aytoi pou einai mposta se olous tous sindesmou einai poli diskolo na mi metrane kai sto ksilo, eos apithano
to thema me tis kavatzes tora ksekinaei apo ti stigmi pou pas se skiniko kai kseris oti kai o allos tha einai astakos,ara gia na mi to haseis tha eisai ki esi etsi
se genikes grammes oloi poustides eimaste,alla kai oute mporo na katigoriso kapion pou tha kanei kolotripidia otan ehei faei toses kolotripidies apo allous
enas favlos kyklos einai ola
distihos to ena vima parapano sti poustia to ksekiname oi dio megaloi panta
giati to misos einai toso megalo pou tha kanoume ta panta gia na perifaneytoume kai na nikisoume o enas ton allon
ligo na kozareis tis sizitisis edo pera kai giati pragmata perifanevontai oloi tha trelatheis,eno to pio tragiko einai oti o kathenas leei ton allo pousti kai mi mpesali otan ehei kanei akrivos ta idia kai aytos
oloi leme gia ton athlitiko nomo gia leyteria stous opadous pote mas omos den analogistikame poses paranomes prakseis ehoume kanei san opadoi,eidika oi dio megaloi
edo pera paizoun atoma pou ama tous rotiseis posa protathlimata ehei i omada tous i kati allo agonistiko de kseroun kai apantane oti me ayta asholounte oi floroi,alla ama riksei fapa stin ano rahoula enas 15aris enos gerou to houn mathei amesos

oloi anagazomaste na kanoume pragmata pou de theloume giati etsi einai i katastasi,kai ksilo na mi thes na paizeis ama arazeis se sindesmous tha tihis statistika kapia stigmi se pesimo,tha patheis kati,tha misiseis pio poli ton allo kai meta ola pane alisida
opadoi pragmatikoi pou niazontai gia tin omada prota apo ola einai ena mikro meros tou sinolou,
min akolouthite panta ti maza otan kanei kati pou de sas ekfrazei,giati tote den eisai tipota parapano apo ena provato,skopos san opados einai na fonazeis sto gipedo na voithas tin omada kai os ekei,na fitakseis pareaki pou n asholiste me gipedika pragmata,na vapseis kana pano,kana plakat,na ftiakseis kamia simaia kai meta na hamogelas mehri t aytia otan ti vlepeis na kimatizeis sto gipedo,ama ginei kati hosou kai prostatepse ayto pou sou anikei giati horis perifaneia de pas pouthena
apo kei kai pera omos i mia dio mpounies ehoun megali diafora,apo to na skotoneis kapion,na ton mahaironeis ,na tou kopanas to kefali me siderolosto,na ou svineis kapnogono sto mati,na kaneis diariksi sto sindesmo ,na kais me tof ti mouri tou allou
oi pio polloi tha poune oti ligoi kanoun toses hontrades,kai ehoun dikio omos se olous aytous emeis pername parasima me ta sinthimata mas pou ta tragoudane oloklira petala

as skeftomaste kai kamia fora ti tragoudame horis na leo oti einai eykolo na mi to tragoudame,(mallon adinato)
otan gia kairo ena petalo kolohtipiotan me to sinthima gia pagrati posoi kseran oti paraligo na pethanei gavros ekei?oti mahaironotan kosmos?kai oti svinan kapnogona stis moures kapion,mallon ligoi

otan oi gavroi eihan kanei simaia tin asea (kai meis to idio tha kaname) posoi kseran oti epeftan mahairies kai kapoioi katourousan kapious sta moutra
mallon kaneis,
genika ta panta hontrinane otan mpike i provoli sti mesi,oi gavroi na dihnoun fotografies apo skinika sto magic(se dimosio kanali etsi) ,na lene gia mihanakia gia ilioupoli,meta mpike to dvd tou pagratiou sto paihnidi pou to vlepe o kathe ksemparkos kai apo kei arhise na ginetai tis poutanas,videakia internet kai pozeria pano apo ola



loony4 - June 10, 2009 05:06 PM (GMT)
ti kahteste k sizitate k analiete dn katalavenw.
opoios dn thelei na xwthei se skinika poli eukola ginete na mi xwthei. auta ta irwika tha prostatepsw tin perifaneia mou k tetoia dn iparxoun.
o kathenas epilegei mexri pu tha asxolithei.

provocative_and_rebels - June 10, 2009 05:06 PM (GMT)
swstos o giorgaras. nomizw perigrafei apoluta tin pragmatikotita.
proswpika kai genika ap'osa atoma gnwrizw protimoume na xasoume ena skiniko, ki as mas lene flwrous, kotes klp apo to na katsoume na palepsoume xerata enw o apenanti kouvalaei spathia kai loipa poustika.
xarisma kathe tetoia "niki".

larissa_gan - June 10, 2009 06:00 PM (GMT)
ola afta pou egrapse o giorgaras einai apoluta swsta. fisika sumfwnw me ton provocative and rebels oti kalutera na xasw skiniko para na vrethw maxairomenos.

PS: loony4 esi mporei na ta exeis zisei kai na ta gnwrizeis, to paidi anoikse ena topic gia na kanei mia erwtisi kai na zitisei tin proswpiki gnwmi gia opoion thelei na tin katathesi. opoios de thelei apla den apantaei. pistevw oti exei pswmia to topic an de to gamisoume.

xanthifan - June 10, 2009 06:49 PM (GMT)
Να πω κι εγώ αν θέλετε τη γνώμη μου γιατί γουστάρω να βοηθήσω τον φίλο. Τώρα το πως θα την "δείτε' οι άλλοι δεν με πολυχαλάει.
Κατ' αρχήν δεν έχουν ποτέ μπει όρια(άλλωστε είναι αρκετά δύσκολο) στους όρους. Πως τα βλέπω και πως τα έχω μάθει εγώ: οπαδός είναι αυτός που τρέχει για την ομάδα του σε όλα τα γήπεδα, φωνάζει, κουνάει σημαίες. Γενικά κάνει κάνει ατμόσφαιρα για την ομάδα από κερκίδα. Μετά έχεις hooligans και ultras. Περίπου ίδιες έννοιες με πολύ μικρές διαφορές αλλά και πάλι πολύ συγκεχυμένα πράγματα. Χουλιγκανισμός είναι πριν, στη διάρκεια και μετά το παιχνίδι που ψαχνεται ο καθένας για φασαρία. Σε στέκια, συνδέσμους κ.τ.λ. Τώρα το ultr-ιλίκι είναι κάτι ανάλογο αλλά οι έννοιες όπως είπα και παραπάνω είναι συγκεχυμένες.
Καλό θα είναι φίλε μου να κάνεις τον συλογισμό αυτό πρώτα. Έτσι όπως το έθεσες εσύ είσαι οπαδός και μάλιστα ο ορισμός του. Τα άλλα ξεφεύγουν.
μαχαίρια και τέτοια βγαίνουν και από απλούς μπάχαλους. Δεν είναι τίποτα να παρασυρθείς.

fentagin acab - June 11, 2009 09:15 AM (GMT)
την φαση την γαμησαν οι μεγαλοι με τα οπλα τις πουστιες τους τσεους κ τους μπραβους για αυτο δεν αξιζει μια...μια βολτα απο το αντιστοιχο τοπικ κ θα μαθεις τα παντα κατα γραμμα...
φιλε απο την ξανθη καμια σχεση ultras με hool...
ο ενας εχει νοοτροπια κ ο αλλος το μπαχαλο...
τωρα καποιοι ανακαλυψαν κ τα hooltras...του κωλου τα 9μερα της τσαςπου τα 40...
στην ελλαδα την ψαχνουμε ακομα την φαση,δεν ξερουμε τι μας γινετε...

punkrock - June 11, 2009 10:48 AM (GMT)
thanks gia tis apanthseis. kai euxaristw pou sevastikate thn amatheia mou kai postarate sovara. stekomai ligo sto post tou giorgara. auto pou pisteuo ego einai oti safws kai to opoiodhpote peristatiko eis varos sou thn stigmh pou arazeis se ena sundesmo tha se kanei na prakseis analoga kai na anoiksei enas favlos kuklos alla nomizw oti uparxoun kai xruses tomes epi tou thematos. exw akousei oti to club tis aek kai tou panathinaikou sta eksarxeia vrisketai se mia anakwxh meta apo sunexomena pesimata twn men stous de. an kati se auto pou lew einai lathos parakalw diorthwste me.

kai tha mou peis ti tha kaneis, tha piaseis ton antipalo opado na tou peis, "kses, as to lhksoume edw, polu ksylo epese." pisteuo oti kati tetoio einai duskolo ews apithano na sumvei eidika otan exoun prohghthei entono parelthon metaksu opadwn.

kai gia na mh kourazw, isws to idanikotero tha htan na mhn asxolountai oi men me tous de eidika apo thn stigmh pou uparxoun eswterika provlhmata stin omada tou kathenos. milaw toulaxiston gia thn dikh mou pou exei arketa provlhmata gia na skefto na kanw pesimo se antipalo sundesmo.

an kai milwntas me filo, mou eipe oti egine pesimo se sundesmo mas sta kala kathoumena kai oti sxediazetai antipoino. thn amartia mou na thn pw, den mporesa na pw "oxi einai malakia na antapanthseis me ton idio tropo"

telospantwn, nomizw oti o kathenas kserei kalutera apo ton kathena poso opados einai h oxi kai exei thn krish na skeftei poso kalutero / perifano ton kanei ena pesimo, to opoio safestata omws den mporei na ton anadeiksei se kalutero petalo apo auto tou antipalou.

mporei na ta gamhsa kai na sas mperdepsa. deikste ligo katanohsh re magkes. :ai

FORZA_JUVE - June 11, 2009 10:55 AM (GMT)
akiro to prwto pou pes

NOTIA PROASTIA 13 - June 11, 2009 10:56 AM (GMT)
O GIORGARAS TA PERIERGRAPSE OLA SE ENA POST DIAVASTE TO MERIKOI PSEUTOMPAXALAKIDES EDW MESA AUTO PAEI GIA OLOUS ANEKSARTITOS OMADOS

ntrigkis4 - June 11, 2009 11:07 PM (GMT)
afto akrivws p eipe o giorgaras symfwnw apolyta k h8ela na grapsw
apo kei kai pera omos i mia dio mpounies ehoun megali diafora,apo to na skotoneis kapion,na ton mahaironeis ,na tou kopanas to kefali me siderolosto,na ou svineis kapnogono sto mati,na kaneis diariksi sto sindesmo ,na kais me tof ti mouri tou allou
"ksylo" epaize palaio8en...alla ksylo me ksylo exei megalh diafora..
pragmatika wres wres skeftomai giati ginonte ola afta (dld. to na paei o allos san astakos me maxairia psalidia phrounia sosivia kranh siderolostous kok) gia poion logo? profanws oti einai o allos einai antipalos dn ginetai na stekei sovara..
en merei katalavainw oti einai h timh h perhfaneia k poutses ble, alla sto poly katavathos dn m fainetai oti afto voh8aei kapou thn omada sou, dld to na paei h mpala sto plekto..
dn kserw eimai kapws mperdemenos..alla ksylo apo ksylo exei terastia diafora

p.s: aa k sto "kalo" ksylo dn lew mono xeria ktlp, kareklakia kamia petra kana pyrso re aderfe, alla oxi k to allo to xali..

Only_White - June 12, 2009 01:36 AM (GMT)
simfono me olous alla i epoxes alazoun , otan o allos su skaei me ta panta panw tou , kindineveis na fas kamia naytiki na sou tripisei ton egkefalo kai kai kai den pas kai esi etsi , fisiko einai , alios den pas ka8olou. Tora gia ayto pou ipes gia to psirisma den 8imame pios den katalaves akrivos ti enoousa , gia des ligo kalitera . sto 8ema mas , otan pezeis ksulo , otidipote , den pezeis gia na peis oti tis pe3ame me tous vrous 3ero go , polemas gia ta idanika sou opos kai aytoi episis , alla stin teliki , edo pou exume ftasei , me mia midamini ideologia kai sevasmo (kai apo tous dyo mas se tetia 8emata) polemas gia tin fimi...

giorgaras - June 12, 2009 05:38 AM (GMT)
apopsi mou einai oti to skiniko tis aseas itan isos to skiniko pou meta apo ayto arhise na gamietai to sympan,
opos episis gia mena megali epidrasi kai stous gavrous kai se mas stin proothisi tis vias ihe i tsoukaloekpompi,mporei n akougetai malakia eidika stous gavrous ayto pou leo,
apla skefteite oti epi kathimerinis vasis anaferotan se skinika.elege gia lagous gia mihanakia,gia kaminia ktl,ama to skefteis meta apo kapio kairo ti legotan de mporis na mi dehteis oti mprizone parapano ton kosmo se kapies katastaseis
dimosio kanali itan...
eno kai to internet eidika tote me ultrasworld eihe kanei megali zimia
i provoli kai i fimi ta kanoun ola
edo o allos psirizei ena kontomaniko kai se 5 lepta tha to ehei anevasei sto net les kai einai pani,kai to korifeo einai oti kseri kai oli tin istoria tis fasis tou psirismatos tou kontomanikou les kai egine kana skiniko gia na to paroun,tragikes katastaseis

Rez - June 12, 2009 01:33 PM (GMT)
distixos exei katantisei malakia.Maxairia kapnogona kai teties malakies.Pleon dn paizontai mpounies.Makari na mn yparxan tetia bastardia.Mono ksilikia me xeria karekles kai kamia petra.
Kai kalo tha itan orismenoi na xarizoun...Egw prosopika exw swsei 5-6 fores gaurousvazelous poy exoun vrethei anamesa mas monoi tous(eite apo malakia tous,eite skontapsan kai dn prolavan na fygoyn ktlp).Ti na kanei ama einai enas me 50-100 atoma?Dn lew na faei kamia sfaliaria prin fygei alla ayto olo,oxi na ton barane oloi mazi,na ton klotsane,na ton petane,na exei lypothimisei kai na xoropidane pano tou.

acab_athens - June 12, 2009 01:48 PM (GMT)
to kalo pou fainetai apo auto to topic einai oti oi apopseis merikwn sumvadizoun... :cheers

punkrock - June 12, 2009 01:57 PM (GMT)
afou oi edw mesa sumfwneite (kai pragmatika xairomai gia auto) oti einai adianohto na afaireis mia zwh h na prokaleis sovares swmatikes vlaves se kapoion antipalo opado pws antimetopizete tetoia fenomena stous sundesmous pou anhkete? an anhkete? dhladh ultras mentality exoun mono osoi mpainoun edw mesa kai lene, oxi stin anekselegkth via? oi upoloipoi? autoi pou travane maxairia kserw gw, den anhkoun se sundesmous? den kukloforoun anamesa sas/mas?

enas apo tous logous pou den anhkw se sundesmo einai orismena tetoia lepta themata pou den kserw poso tha hthela na erthw se antiparathesh me kapoion/ous pou pithanon na exoun diaforetikh apopsh.
safws kai den krinw kanena sundesmiko kinhma h opoion thelei na einai melos. sto katw katw ola apo thn omada ksekinane nomizw. exw piei tis mpures mou ki exw araksei se sundesmous kai to exw xarei pragmatika, alla thn prwth fora pou eida apo konta kadronia me karfia pragmatika sokaristika. tha mou peis, megale ksupna, pou zeis kai tetoia.
de kserw, arnoumai na dextw oti eimai to idio pragma me autous tous anthrwpous ki as thewroumai ligotero opados.

Rez - June 12, 2009 02:13 PM (GMT)
xeiroteroi pantos einai 35-40 xronon stokoi,teliwmenoi poy asxolountai me mpaxala,kai erxontai me petaloudes,lostous,glop.ktlp kai xtypane tous allous kai sta @@ toys ola.Dhladi o allos pou einai 18-26 xronon pou exei oli tou ti zwh mprosta,gt o allos na tou kanei zhmia.Ama i zwi i tou einai katastremeni kai to mono pou exei sti zwi tou einai i omada tou gt na katastrepsei kai ton allonon?

acab_athens - June 12, 2009 02:14 PM (GMT)
prwta apo ola otan eisai se sundesmo den shmainei oti den mporeis na exeis diaforetikh apopsh se kapoia themata!
exei megalh diafora to na sumfwnoume emeis edw me na ginei an ginei...gayroi pantws den exoun pei kati gia to thema :aight

punkrock - June 12, 2009 02:31 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (acab_athens @ Jun 12 2009, 02:14 PM)
prwta apo ola otan eisai se sundesmo den shmainei oti den mporeis na exeis diaforetikh apopsh se kapoia themata!





nai se auto exeis dikio, den ta vazw ola sto idio tsouvali, apla kamia fora kserw gw, isws epeidh den mporeis na pas me ton stauro sto xeri se kapoia themata kalh ora opws to ghpediko kata thn gnwmh mou kalo einai na ta parakoloutheis ap thn ap eksw. alla nai, den eipa oti den mporeis na diathrhseis tis dikes sou apopseis eiserxomenos se enan sundesmo. auto me tous olumpiakous to parathrhsa ki egw btw.

loony4 - June 12, 2009 02:33 PM (GMT)
oi teleiwmenoi pou pane se kathe megalo baxalo kai kikloforane me spathia, spray klp panw tous (gia na min tous petixei kanas allos teleiwmenos pou tous kserei k tous kentisei) den mpenoun ultrasupport na kozaroun kai na diamorfwsoun antilipsi. mexri na stamatisoun na iparxoun teleiwmenoi stis omades k stin proti grammi einai anousia i sizitisi. auto eipa k prin dn to peksa iperanw. o kathenas epilegei mexri pou tha asxolithei dn goustareis na sou kapsoun ti mouri i na se tripisoun, min pas sta baxala. den einai toso diskolo oute thelei analisi.
oi gayroi na poune ti? nai dikio exete pame na plakwthoume se xwrafia me fair play san tous eurwpaious?

punkrock - June 12, 2009 02:42 PM (GMT)
loony4 to thema mpike kuriwws gia sullogh / antallagh apopsewn, eidika po thn stigmh pou opws proeipa den eimai idiaitera pshmenos ston xwro. a, mias kai to aneferes, se sxetika videakia pou eida sto youtube, polwnoi, rwssoi, oukranoi klp klp dernontai herata e? no "gadgets" required.

acab_athens - June 12, 2009 03:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (loony4 @ Jun 12 2009, 02:33 PM)
oi teleiwmenoi pou pane se kathe megalo baxalo kai kikloforane me spathia, spray klp panw tous (gia na min tous petixei kanas allos teleiwmenos pou tous kserei k tous kentisei) den mpenoun ultrasupport na kozaroun kai na diamorfwsoun antilipsi. mexri na stamatisoun na iparxoun teleiwmenoi stis omades k stin proti grammi einai anousia i sizitisi. auto eipa k prin dn to peksa iperanw. o kathenas epilegei mexri pou tha asxolithei dn goustareis na sou kapsoun ti mouri i na se tripisoun, min pas sta baxala. den einai toso diskolo oute thelei analisi.
oi gayroi na poune ti? nai dikio exete pame na plakwthoume se xwrafia me fair play san tous eurwpaious?

thelw na dw ti exoun na poun giauto to thema...kai sto katw katw ths grafhs esu ti apologeise gia thn partu tous....to poutanaki tous eisai?

zate - June 12, 2009 04:59 PM (GMT)
ola ofeilontai sthn adunamia twn newn kuriws na dextoun thn periptwsh httas...Gia kapoious einai adianohto na anagastoun na upoxwrhsoun...einai adianohto na uparxei sth gh atomo pou na se exei...
omws otan ksereis oti o allos tha skasei keratas, kai o allos kserei to idio gia sena, pws boreis na pas gumnos? tha sou thn peftei o allos me kerata kai esu me xerakia?aniso...
kai as mhn ksexname autous pou skane ghpedo me ta xerakia stavrwmena, blouzes hooligans ktl,gamaw-dernw-psirisa-ekana-erana pou an tous rwthseis pou paizeis thn allh kuriakh allazoun thema kai soun lene gia thn kaltsa pou psirisan...

H agaph gia thn omada den fainetai apo to an tha xwtheis sta skhnika...Paizoun megala atoma apo swstous sundesmous pou exoun pei oti einai enantia sta skhnika...H uposthriksh gia thn omada fainetai kuriws sto ghpedo...Parousia me tiga fwnh kai ta teleutaia xronia ta diafora alla pou exei epivalei h moda...

xanthifan - June 12, 2009 07:36 PM (GMT)
Σωστός ο από πάνω!

Only_White - June 13, 2009 05:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
zate  Posted on Jun 12 2009, 04:59 PM
  ola ofeilontai sthn adunamia twn newn kuriws na dextoun thn periptwsh httas...Gia kapoious einai adianohto na anagastoun na upoxwrhsoun...einai adianohto na uparxei sth gh atomo pou na se exei...

opote prosoxi stous pitsirikades , erxonte me ta xilia ... ;)

loony4 - June 13, 2009 01:25 PM (GMT)
pou pige to klipaki me tous aman re mlkes?

Ultras-Olympiakos - June 13, 2009 02:27 PM (GMT)
Opados einai autos pou agapaei m olh th shmasia ths lexhs thn omada tou kai kanei ta panta na thn odhghsei sth nikh..
Twra giati gia esas den mporei kapoios na tsakwnetai kai na agapaei thn omada tou tautoxrona den to katalavainw
H pleiopshfia agapaei thn omada tous. Fusika omws uparxoun kai orismeneoi oi opoioi einai kathara mpaxalakides
Osoi tsakwnontai ennoeitai pws den to kanoun gia thn omada tous alla gia thn fhmh ths ekastote thuras kai gia maxairia maderia klp pou lete auta panta epaizan elaxista ligotero apo twra(ante sun o dunamiths)
Oloi mas pou eimaste ston opadiko xwro gnwrizoume to oti mporeis ap to na katalikseis sth fulakh sthn kalhterh mexri kai to na mhn ksanashkwtheis apo katw sth xeiroterh an asxoleise m auta kai efoson oloi mas ta gnwrizoume apo kei kai pera o kathenas kanei tis epiloges tou..

Only_White - June 13, 2009 03:59 PM (GMT)
simfono apolita me tipo apo panw . idika ayto p grafei sto telos , oti o ka8enas efoson oloi gnorizume kanei tis epiloges tou...

wtf? - June 13, 2009 08:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (punkrock @ Jun 10 2009, 11:01 AM)
autos pou asxoleitai apokleistika kai mono me thn omada tou (ekdromes, enhmerwsh, sthriksh, pania, sunthimata, otidipote enisxuei ena club telospantwn) einai ligotero opados apo auton pou kanei ntou se sundesmous, maxaironei filopoulous kai iliopoulous, kaiei me pursous allous opadous klp klp?

katalavainw oti ola ksekinane apo kapou, diladi an mou kanoun pesimo ston sindesmo oi x opadoi ennoeitai oti den tha katsw na kanw thn kota kai tha praksw analoga, apla mhpws xanetai h ousia? dhladh ultras einai oi tupoi sta petala h autoi me ta maderia ana xeiras?

anousia erwtisi, sovares apantiseis

etsi13 - June 14, 2009 01:35 AM (GMT)
MONO KAI MONO SAN ERWTHSH EINAI ASTOXH GIATI DEN MPOREIS NA PEIS ME SIGOURIA OTI ENAS THA EINAI MONO STHN MIA KATHGORIA KI OXI KAI STHN DEYTERH TAYTOXRONA.PWS EINAI DYNATON NA BAZEIS ORIA SE KATI POU EISAI KOLHMENOS MAZI TOU POLY ENTONA KI EINAI GIA KAPOIOUS TROPOS ZWHS?KAPOIOS GOUSTAREI NA FTIAXNEI PANIA ME EKSYPNA MHNYMATA,KAPOIOS ALLOS NA BAFEI TOIXOUS,ENAS ALLOS NA KOPANAEI ALLOTHRISKOUS,ENAS ALLOS NA TRAGOUDAEI ASTAMATHTA STO GHPEDO,ENAS ALLOS NA PHGAINEI STON ERASITEXNH...ENW KAPOIOS ALLOS PROSPATHEI NA SYNDIASEI OSA PERISSOTERA APO TA PARAPANW POU EIPAME.DEN SOU BAZEI KANEIS TO MAXAIRI STO LAIMO NA SOU PEI KANE AYTO H MHN KANEIS TO ALLO.AKOU THN KARDIA SOU AKOU TO MEGETHOS TOU PATHOUS SOU(AN BEBEA EXEIS PATHOS)KAI PRAKSE ANALOGA XWRIS NA EXEI IDIAITERH SHMASIA TI LENE OI GYRW SOU.

independent - June 15, 2009 03:05 AM (GMT)
Ara paradexomaste oti o opadismos me thn idiaiterh shmasia ths le3hs einai mia maxh meta3u kammenwn apo th zwh atomwn? Egw auto pou 3erw einai oti h megalh pleiopshfia twn atomwn pou asxolountai me ta shmerina skhnika ntrophs, den exei idea apo to ti shmainei na fwnazeis gia thn omada sou, na kounas mia shmaia kai na thn w8eis sth nikh... Oi perissoteroi to mono pou vlepoun einai ena antipalo xrwma pou exoun valei ws stoxo ths zwhs tous na polemoun xwris kan na 3eroun poio einai to xrwma pou uperaspizontai... Milame kata vash gia atoma pou den exoun kanena provlhma na mpoun sth stenh(tsaba fagaki) kai gia atoma pou 3eroun oti oti kai na kanoun kapoios X kurios kokkalhs (mhn pare3hgeiste) 8a tous vgalei ladi... Auth einai olh h istoria... Sunepws einai fusiologiko ta megala astika kentra na mazeuoun perissotero kammeno kosmo kai na epididontai se enan polemo xwris kanena nohma me th morfh pou exei parei... To kako einai oti oloi emeis akoma kai autoi pou den goustaroume na paizoun faseis maxairiwn klp sta skinika avantaroume tetoia atoma pou mporei na exoun parei mia maxh terma sthn poustia. Giati eipame, olo to paixnidi sthrizetai sthn propaganda...
Tespa pisteuw pws me kalupse plhrws o giwrgaras me ta osa eipe.
Perimenw kapoia stigmh autoi pou apokalountai megaloi na kanoun thn autokritikh tous gia to pws katanthsan se auto to shmeio, to antikeimeno ths kouventas mas..
H dikaiologia tou tupou afou 3ereis oti o allos 8a einai astakos egw ti na kanw den ifistatai gia mena.
Exoume kanei thn poustia phgh 8aumasmou...

punkrock - June 15, 2009 10:21 AM (GMT)
Anyway, thanks gia tis apanthseis. Opoios allos thelei mporei na prosthesei to otidhpote. Nomizw oti akousa auta pou hthela pantws.

Gate 10 - June 15, 2009 09:24 PM (GMT)
Einai megalh malakia na 8ewroyn kapoioi "fobia" to oti de kaneis pesimo se syndesmo epeidh eisai anti8etos m ayth th malakia poy exei ginei moda sth xwra mas

loony4 - June 15, 2009 09:47 PM (GMT)
periergi mera dialekses na grapseis kati tetoio :D




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