Title: ESAB 1125 WITH THERMAL ONE TORCH
big rig guy - November 30, 2005 05:21 AM (GMT)
Have not had too much time here to post anything, but did join some months ago, lurking once in awhile.
Anyhow- I updated my Esab 1125 to the Thermal Dynamics One torch system, went to cut some 1 inch plate, and it would not cut it. It being a Sunday I waited till Monday when my supplier is open, they said, that the One torch is not optimized for the Esab, and that the original torch, made by Esab is the only one to use. Okay fine, would have been nice to ell me that before I shelled out the 700 or so to switch over. Anyhow, went back to the Esab torch,and of course had to buy a bunch of consumables as I gave my buddy the esab consumables I had laying around here, when I got the new torch. Par for the course.
So the Esab torch cut the 1 inch plate, no problem. My question to anyone here, does this make sense, or any experience changing around the torches?????????? and maybe run into the same problem????????
My thinking at the time to switch to the Onetorch, was that it was better made, easier to use and to keep my consumables in line with the other plasma cutters that I have as they are TD as well.
Franzę - November 30, 2005 05:44 AM (GMT)
Without doing a lot of digging into machine specs, I'd guess EASB and TD are using different voltages at the torch, and the spacing between electrodes is set up to optimize the TD machine. The ESAB machine may not have sufficient voltage to properly generate a plasma arc.
If you can read the nameplates on the machines, it may show what the arc voltage is.
big rig guy - November 30, 2005 03:22 PM (GMT)
Heh Franz-I was getting good results with plate up to 1/2, just bogged down when trying the one inch, machine is rated for 1 1/4. I will see if I can find any more info. I guess the next step would be to buy a TD machine without the torch so that I can utilize this extra torch now, damn too, I just bought my right hand man a TD 38 for Xmas as he does alot of car stuff in his garage at home.
DDA52 - November 30, 2005 03:57 PM (GMT)
Hey, Big. Scott V knows a good bit about those yellow machines. He might be able to give you an answer.
Scott V - December 2, 2005 12:51 AM (GMT)
I was wondering where you found a 70 amp nozzle for the one torch?
Did you use a 80 amp instead of the the 55/60.
Also which style tip did you use?
I have heard about Hypertherms not doing all that
well with the one torch.
I almost decided to buy a machine one torch for my esab 1500
for my shape cutter, but I thought the 101 cutmaster was a better
cnc setup. It would cut 1.5" clean but slow. It cuts with a narrower
kerf and bevel then the esab. I now have the 151 which is the best
overall single phase machine out.
Call Thermal about this.
big rig guy - December 2, 2005 02:04 AM (GMT)
Scottv- I agree with you, The Thermals seem to have a nicer cut, this esab I have with the original torch is a real beast when it comes to cutting. I can rip through one inch aluminum fairly easy.
I have the Sl 100 1torch with 90/100 tips, maybe the tip size needs to be one size smaller, I could try that. These are standard tips to use with a standoff guide or at least 3/16 distance from workpiece while cutting by freehand.
My buddy has the Esab 1500, he was thinking of the !torch but I advised him against it based on my experience.
I think we once talked about the 151, you really like that unit?????? Maybe one of those early in the new year, I am thinking of building another welder/plasma outfit again, damn, it never stops does it.
Scott V - December 2, 2005 02:22 AM (GMT)
I love the 151 because it seems even smoother the the 101 unit.
That is hard to do.
I would buy a 60 amp and a 80 amp nozzle before I gave up on the
one torch. Try to use the exposed tip if you can. Set your machine to
70 with the 80 amp nozzle and 60 with 60 amp nozzle.
You cuts should improve quite a bit.
If you have funny starts with the one torch you might want to
buy the spacer that holds the start cartridge up against it's stop.
Sometimes it needed.
john pen - December 7, 2005 04:15 PM (GMT)
Hey big...how about a thread with some pics of your latest projects ?
big rig guy - December 7, 2005 04:33 PM (GMT)
Scottv- good info, I printed it out and when I get a minute will change it back over and order the appropriate tips. I hate to give up on the Onetorch as I feel it is better than the standard Esab unit.
Thread on projects, well I have so much on the go, frame shortening and remove bunk off a FRT Classic, jackknifed Internationals, ripping the sleeper apart and trying to align reweld etc, two aluminum dump trlrs rolled over-extensive damage, 88 KW w 900, fullout customize and mod job, super long daycab done right up, and finally a Pete 379-girlie truck in for a complete restoration.
Will post some threads here this afternoon.