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Title: Stick welding electrical question.......

Markopolo - November 27, 2005 01:22 AM (GMT)
OK, I've got a question (so what ELSE is new)......

I've got a Miller Thunderbolt XL (ac/dc) in my shop, and also a Lincoln Precision-Tig 185......Both of which can be used for stick welding.

I've found that one of these machines (which will not be named at this point) SEEMS to give me a noticeably nicer arc when stick welding.

Being the "common-sense" kind of guy that I am, I'm aware that this phenomenon may very well just be a "figment of my imagination".

QUESTION: Is there anyone out there that knows enough about the electrical configuration of these two machines that would explain if one or the other machine is more well suited to stick welding ?

THANKS !.....Marko.

Franzę - November 27, 2005 01:53 AM (GMT)
Well Nephew, you ain't seein things, and you are becoming a better stick weldor.

I went from a Lincoln coffy grinder rotary to my P&H when the Lincoln blew it's stator on the drive end, and wondered if I knew diddle about stick, or had myself a stroke when I tried to stick with the P&H. The P&H has a sweet arc quality on TIG, and ain't for shyt on stick.
Now, the funny part, I came into a second P&H a number of years later, and the guy using it was doing stick with the machine. Same flippin model machine, and it had a decent arc on stick.
Different machines, even from different manufacturers will deliver a different arc. It's just part of the game.

clintonwelding1 - December 21, 2005 12:29 AM (GMT)
i found that the miller ran a little nicer than teh lincoln and i would say taht this is because the miller is mainley ment for stick where as teh lincoln is manily used as a tig welder

7018 - December 21, 2005 07:50 AM (GMT)
Marko I think your talking about the linclon having the better arc.I have found that in the smaller machines that Linclon out preforms miller hands down.So please let me know if I'm right. :P

arcdawg - December 21, 2005 03:51 PM (GMT)
I would rather have a buzz box for stick and then the tig machine......For me it just seems like you would get the *innards* of the tig machine too dirty from all the slag and such....and at the prices that they get for a Tig machine....well.....

how bout stepping up to a mm251............hell marko just sell your shop to me and get a pm300 with a spool gun and you will have a complete welding shop in one box.....

btw im in citrus in april.........


Markopolo - December 27, 2005 02:08 AM (GMT)
OK.....Clintonwelding......REMEMBER, I'm talking about two different machines, a Miller Thunderbolt, and a Lincoln Precisiontig 185.......The Thunderbolt is a "Buzz-Box".....where the Precisiontig is a "square wave machine".....but they are both capable of stick welding.

Paul......I hate to say this, but I think you may be right !......(Lincoln has got stick-welding down to a science) !

Brian....The Heliarc is already there, so it will get dirty whether I use it or not !

If I ever "upgrade" to a bigger MIG, I'm thinking a Lincoln Powermig 300 push-pull....BUT....I really don't need it. For heavy-duty work, I'll take my stick, and for the finer work, my little Hobart Handler 135 has proven itself....(and of course, I have the gas rig).....And thanks to you, I'm getting pretty good at Heliarc ! ;)


arcdawg - December 27, 2005 04:56 PM (GMT)
sounds good marko....


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