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jrw159 - August 11, 2009 03:12 PM (GMT)
Here is the most recent "special project" in process. I do not yet have completion pic's for the first one. The rest are completed pics of a few of my favorites. Hope you enjoy them.


jrw159 - August 11, 2009 03:14 PM (GMT)
OK, new user malfunction. LOL I seem to only be able to attach one pic to the post. This might get lengthy.


jrw159 - August 11, 2009 03:15 PM (GMT)
Next. And I will stop on this project and just post a couple more of completed ones until I can figure the pic attachment out.


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jrw159 - August 11, 2009 03:17 PM (GMT)

jrw159 - August 11, 2009 04:08 PM (GMT)
Lone Butte casino, AZ.

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Franzę - August 11, 2009 05:13 PM (GMT)
John, the shortcoming of this Board is limited picture posting capability.

You know them future smokers are pretty big, but what the hell, they still make torches to cut em down.

jrw159 - August 11, 2009 05:42 PM (GMT)
Yeah, there is a left over peice of the 42" about 4' long that I am considering making a company BBQ grill out of for the yearly picnics but damn that is gonna be a big one.


Franzę - August 11, 2009 09:42 PM (GMT)
Big depends on who is paying for the meat & groceries.

Meanwhile sneak over to the fabric plant under the excuse of shelter in case of rain at the picnic and learn up on how to fasten that stuff.

Then we can learn all about misters and score free nozzles. After all the guy working the grill needs to be protected from heat prostration to avoid a comp claim.

jrw159 - August 12, 2009 12:06 AM (GMT)
You got that right, if you can fill it with meat, I can build it.

As far as sneaking over to fabric, screw that I walk in and out as I please. :D There is really nothing "top secret" but there are numerous fastening and tension techniques that we utilize.

One thing I did neglect to mention is there is a lot of High strenght steel braid cable and turnbuckles utilized in some of these shade structures.

In short, there are many ways to make it stick, I just need to know what it has to stick to.


JT Metalworks - August 12, 2009 12:26 AM (GMT)
How do you guys typically deal with rain shed? Are there provisions within the canopy to divert it?

jrw159 - August 12, 2009 12:36 AM (GMT)
Yes rainfall is among the many natural elements that must be accounted for and this varies by region. This company has structures in just about every state in the US and several over seas.

Now on that note, my involvement is minimal at best when it comes to that. The most I might have to say is the best placement of a drain hole in a given section. I am but a mere cog in this big wheel.


Franzę - August 12, 2009 01:58 AM (GMT)
Hey, maybe they could build a tent for Jack to build his mud brick factory under and shed the water onto the Hebrew neighbor's property. Then Jack could make bricks that don't disolve in the rain.

JT Metalworks - August 12, 2009 02:38 AM (GMT)
Well, Detroit ain't exactly a desert and the round sections where the masts protrude look like a funnel which seems like it would cause problems for those beneath.

I also realize that architects don't always give two turds about function, and this might be an example of such.

jrw159 - August 12, 2009 03:30 AM (GMT)
You are not the first to use the word funnel when describing this structure. As for the design and the intent behind it.... well thats between the customer, D&E and project management. LOL

I just inspected the steel. :rolleyes:


JT Metalworks - August 12, 2009 04:08 AM (GMT)
I'm just thinking they'd have benches around the columns if it were put up here, so anyone sitting on those benches would be unhappy if the sprinkling were to commence.

I happen to like the stuff you're posting. Looks much nicer than the little aluminum and glass huts they park on the corners here.

Franzę - August 12, 2009 04:25 AM (GMT)
Now JT think back to the time when ArcyBarker transitioned from twatthound to arteest. He went and goot hooked on all them fancy words and dogtreats on a cracker, and it ruint his appitite for kibble.

I got half a hunch the archetect fellow who laid out that bus shelter was symbolicly illustrating the societal inversion caused by all the Civil Rights & equality horseshyt, and sold it on that basis. just cause the sumbeach is useless you can't ignore the symbolism and that it brought tax dollars to buy Union votes. So a few jerkoffs get drowned under the funnel, big deal, they also provide bating facilitys for local winos.

JT Metalworks - August 12, 2009 05:19 AM (GMT)
I wonder how many wino's throw their bottles in it to make a basket? :D

How much is the cloth stuff? I bet it would work slick for a patio shade.

Franzę - August 12, 2009 05:40 AM (GMT)
JT just go to the yellow pages and hit the local awning shops.

Most of them have shelves full of awnings people never picked up and sell em cheap to get them out of the shop.

Of course you could go with a slat type cargo chute for nostalgia. I can send you one, 32 footer I think but you gonna pay shipping.

JT Metalworks - August 12, 2009 06:02 AM (GMT)
The problem with awnings is that they look like you just pulled up with the winnebago, or you're trying to dress up your double wide.

The patio (will be replaced with a deck in a couple years) gets hit with the southerly summer sun in mid afternoon despite all the trees we have back there. We need something to cut that down, but not enclose it. I thought a nice lattice type structure would work without blocking the breeze, but the mrs vetoed that due to aesthetic differences.

jrw159 - August 12, 2009 01:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JT Metalworks @ Aug 12 2009, 12:19 AM)
I wonder how many wino's throw their bottles in it to make a basket?  :D

How much is the cloth stuff?  I bet it would work slick for a patio shade.

Any wino that could make a basket with a wine bottle on this one should be playing ball somewhere, he would have to have a hell of an arm. :D

The fabric varies in price as we have several options that provide different levels of shade as well as some are stronger than others due to tension requirements. The basic bottom of the line would work fine for your purposes. I can't say what it costs us as we buy bulk and I stay as far the hell away from purchasing as I can. If you provide a size I could get a quote.

This morning I spoke with the design engineers concerning the draining issue since my office is located in the engineering area.

One of my other responsibilities that I did not mention due to the fact it is not really welding related is the storm water pollution prevention program, or SWPPP, that is mandatory through the city of Dallas. Basically this program monitors the storm water run off from our facility to insure we are not polluting the water. Our run off does not go to a treatment facility, it drains straight to the Trinity river.

Anyways, this project actually had more than the normal attention paid to storm water runoff. Due to the way the structure is set up it catches and directs a lot of the rain water around and away from areas that tend to accumulate dirt and trash and directs it towards the sewage drains. I did not get any details past that. Suffice it to say, it appears to have been well planned out from several aspects of storm water run off.

I am glad you guy's are enjoying the pic's. I would hate to bore ya!


jrw159 - August 12, 2009 03:40 PM (GMT)
Added installation pics. Location is Overland Park, KS.


JT Metalworks - August 12, 2009 05:43 PM (GMT)
Without provocation in any way - the mrs just told me she'd be happy with the offending tree gone. :D I guess she's sick of the damn seed balls too.

That means the deck can be bigger and the stupid branches won't set off the motion detector out back anymore.

Looks like I've got a project for October.

As for the material quote, I bet I could use a scrap from one of those jobs. Probably not bigger than 20x30ish. Still gotta get it past the mrs. I think she's intending on doing a dumb umbrella table when the time comes.

jrw159 - August 12, 2009 08:06 PM (GMT)
I will see what I can find. If I can find a scrap piece I can probably get it pretty cheap. I wish I could get it free but the company that makes it also buys back the scrap to recycle into the next batch. I have no clue how this is done but they buy it back from us by the pound. Any particular color?


JT Metalworks - August 12, 2009 08:41 PM (GMT)
You don't need to worry about it now. This will be an issue once the deck is built. Right now, I'm looking at the other bathroom next summer and a kitchen after that. Lord only knows when I'll be doing the deck.

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