I'm finally sick of standing to do tig welding on smallish parts and am wondering what all everyone has tried using for shop seating?

I'm looking for something comfortable, but also flame proof (within reason), as well as impervious to hot chips and any form of spraying molten metal (sparks, plasma discharge, spatter, etc). This pretty much limits me to hard surfaces or possibly leather.

Nothing real fancy desired, just some place to park the keister while working.

That simple request JT may well be one of life's greatest questions.

I've seen stools made from bicycle seats mounted atop rubber mounted poles that work well in a lot of situations, and I've come across people who engineered assets from old iron tractor seats. Then there is the ever present wire milk crate.

I don't think a single one stool fits all design will ever be acheived.

With all the receivers you mounted on that bench of yours it seems like something mounted on a swingarm from the bench would be handy, providing you make it height adjustable. Then yo need to develope seating. Weren't you hooked into a bicycle crook a while back? Might be a good idea to go check some of the ergonamic seats they have, especially the ones for lardos.

The bicycle thief (a classic early film - joke) did nothing but recumbents and his seats were little more than directors chairs built out of bent aluminum hoops.

The stake post swing arm idea is out as well. I had to sit on a similar contraption while taking the ACT and that memory still haunts me 15 years later. I absolutely HATE being pivoted from one side. I also don't like having only one direction of easy travel. There's also the bashing your shins into the thing when you're not sitting in it issue as well.

Something possibly worthwhile in that bent would be a rail mounted stool that you straddled the center arm when seated. The thing could attach via the bottom rail of the table's i beam much like a crane trolley.

I like the idea of eliminating the feet - I've got enough cable snaggers as it is. It might be worth developing.

Body harness with overhead trolley and electric hoist. Take a load off of you back. :D

While I could do that... It's not practical. :P It also doesn't sound very comfortable.

Jim,Till i get my new camera,I have some rotton Pics,,The short stubby mecanics seat my Buddy likes,But his Back is fine,, You will see it under the bench!

The other black ones adjust 8 ways of sunday!! I bougt 3 and a new leather office chair back in 07,,and well you will see what i heli -arc in,,and sit around a chew the fat,,They were off of epay( If i can remember thats all he sold,,),and the 4 chairs were Under 250.00 with the Black work chairs being the cheapest,,Thay are the most comfortable chair,as of all the adjustments!
If I have alot of cutting,I just throw a fire blanket over my lap. The chairs look brand new,and everyone grabs one even if its just to stop and Bs.
Hope this helps,The guy had a 100% feedback,and I talked to him on the phone,did real good by me,Well Im pleased and he knocked off quite a few bucks, by check,or Credit card! No PP But takes it!!!!!!


I wish i found 1 when i was at the other shop! it was a home meade,no adjustment,and a hunt of wood,and a old pillow!!! OUCH!!!!!!!! Good Luck.

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This is it,I dont think you will be disapointed, I can tig for 6 hrs and my back DOES NOT HURT :D ,,Thats Good adjustment,Even your ft thing adjusts! :D

Some people around here are beginnin to concern me. First Egon wants to hang JT in some kind of Jollie Jumper suspended from a tool balancer, and then the King of crappy pictures wants JT to follow in his footsteps and put a blanket on his lap. What's next, a picture of Granny Storts with a laprobe and a friggin denture cup mounted to the arm of the chair that doubles as a TIG cooler reservoir/denture cleaner?

Wasn't it bad enough when marko tried converting the old embalming machine to a Heliarc cooler?

For the love of doG, JT's a young whipper snapper. He needs something with a methane collector seat so he can collect selfmade methane and cut torch gas bills.
Something along the lines of a cut down drywall bucket with seat connected to a small methane compressor to build pressure for the torch.

I don't drink enough beer to produce enough methane to bother with the contraption. B) Perhaps you should suggest such a device to the guys out west?

I guess there was a Granny storts??????? But it would of been your time :lol: :lol: ,Were having a Power Problem,Dont want to stay on!!!!

Thanks as i have a dentists appointment today,,I guess mine would be in Pcs!!!!!! thanks for the reminder!!

Jim wanted to know,and with my back,they are so comfy,There great,and pretty cheep!!!!!! Just doing a friend a favor,,or thats right,you have to buy your Lovly wife dinner tonight! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Get that Pry bar readdy,, Jim Ill see if i can go back that far on ebay,But the guy has been around and i know you back bothers you also,there are so many adjustments,it helps,

But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOONow we need to bring Granny Storts In,were still trying to figure out who Mr Storts was in 1904 when he started the buisness,,Its not a Popular name,so you think it would be easy! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,, Do a Guy a favor,and the Old coot wakes Up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rent a Snowmobile! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And leave Eagon alone, :o Nice gentleman trying to help him fellow member,,and that Idea of yours,,Yea mount it in a reciever,,Durrr,is that a round peg in a sq. hole?? HMMMMMMMMMMMM they spin easy,,Ill keep my crappy pics in the doc file,till the new camera comes in,via ice skates next week! :P :lol:
Jim its Fri,You know he has to go to the Dinner,and Open that wallet,How bout a Pic of That rekic!? :D :D

Come on,Give us one for the gipper!!!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: We need a good chuckle,No good rocket scientistst jokes,,Poor Sally the Pet Cutting torch Dog! ,,Jim- Brocoli will surpass any methane you might need!

Help a guy out and he gets all franzie!,Anought name like Mr Storts,,Heck both German,Maybe a relative of yours????? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dust and spark/chip resistant is a must on these. No fabric, and NO VINYL.

Jack, if I wanted a chair like yours, I could've bought a dozen of them at $10 a pop when the Target maintenance dept closed up a couple months back.

I havent set it on fire yet,and it does help your back!,that was my main concern,when i had all those ss baskets to make,,heck,if it worked for me! I just cant pic you hanging in a Yellow Jump suit! from the cieling,,then the crane would have to be motorized ,Both ways! :P :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dont you ever sleep??????????????? :lol:

You can be a Young whipper snapper and still have a bad back!!!! <_< <_< <_< <_< :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Yeah, I sleep from about 4-10am.

OK, so trying to take all the weight off the back is out so how about a ergonomic type chair that will also be easier on the back. :D

Sorry Egon, that's a REJECT.
The lad has bad knees from all the hours he spent in prayer.

If you want to make baluns chairs I dohave the plans someplace. They are quite comfortable, especially if you have back problems.

I also have no desire to need to reposition my amptrol by any other means than a nudge with the foot. With the baluns, even if I didn't find them painful to sit in (due to Army injuries - never been catholic, never will), I wouldn't be able to control the pedal without some kind of funky angle bracket. So yeah, they're categorically a no-go.

You turn into some kind of funkey bracket bigot there boy?

Funkey brackets make the earth rotate.

Yes, when it comes to needing to bend over to reposition the foot pedal to go between seated and standing - I am a bracket bigot. And proud of it.

I also don't understand the guys who need holsters on the side of their welding machine for the pedal. Either you're using it, or you're moving it - does it really need a holster to keep from falling off the machine in transit to a different location in your shop? Maybe these guys have more distance to travel than I do, but I haven't seen too many ya-hoo's on the forums who have more usable solid surface than I do. And many with the realestate don't have it climate controlled.

Brackets make you look cool. They be real important when the neighbor comes over to ogle yer welding machine you have no damn idea how to run. Brackets are also very important when you switch to the thumbwheel on the torch cause yer too punk to know chins, knees and elbows work well on an amptrol.

Hell only reason mine ever came off the floor was to keep it from crap falling on it.
Next time my Heliare machine moves will be the first time since 1975.

I swear this craft is goin pansey. Even Ol Granny Storts is wearin a lap blanket.

There's one other reason to have it off the floor and that's cleaning - maybe these guys sweep and polish their floors so much they need the holster? :huh:

I sweep about once a month (or less), or if I get annoyed with how much crap is on the floor.

In house or in shop?? :P

OK; so youse don't like the idea of modern stuff that will alleviated back strain to some degree so maybe what would work is the Chair my homeroom teacher always had me sitting on! :o

I coulnd find that fire blanket,! If i had to,, I just dont cut in the chair,,Just stick,or tig,or mig!!!!!!! And if ya sit the right distance,,the bee bee's rolling off,dont make it easier to go pee-pee :D :lol: :lol: Keeps the Old lead in the Pencil, If a couple get thru! :o :o

With this weather,Im so bored, Maybe Ill go nake a bracket,,But i do the same as Jim,kick it out of the way and sweep, Maybe it Makes ya look more profecianal!??Cant any one bend over and put it on the bench to really do a good job sweeping?

Egons chair,I would lean back in,and be snoozing in 5 mins!!!!!!! :D :D ,Why not weld out of a hammock,,the chair looks real comfy!! :P

In the shop, E - the mrs cleans the house. :P

Good doG, this place is almost getting to the level of Garage Urinal where they discuss what kind of floor covering to put in the shop and what brand of vacuum cleaner they have.

Bunch of doGdamn girleymen and child mollestors over there.

Poor Jack can't even afford to go to Ollies and get a reacher, and JT is pickin up used brooms off trash piles.

No wonder the Country needs Change.

What the hell are you talking about Franz?

I don't pick up any used brooms.

I'm also not about to paint my floor.

You just reminded me I need to call a buddy about a shop vac though. Nice rigid one that's hardly used for 30 bucks. ;) He's back from japan today.

NO JT you must install a centralvac with wet pickup capability or you can't be in the competition for garage of the month.

I know for a fact Jack has a Spencer Air Turbine 5hp unit with triple 16" rotors in his plans. You gotta keep up with the Jonses you know.

AND

You gotta go with epoxy coating on the floor so you can install something to protect the floor from welding sparks. It's the AmeriKan way.

The only epoxy destined for my floor is to fill in the gouges from when I was shoving the lathe around prior to getting the crane up. The feet on that thing aren't big enough to distribute the load, and dug in. Of course, I'll be trying the left over grout from when I leveled out the crane columns first. If that stuff sticks, it'll be good to go. I'm not wasting too much energy on it, it's just the skim coat that looks like it has worm tracks.

You ain't gonna make the cut over at Yuppie Garage Urinal JT.

Shoot you might not even make is far as rottinberry did.

I own my shop outright, and that's a LOT more than many you mention can say. ;)

[QUOTE]Egon's chair,I would lean back in,and be snoozing in 5 mins[CODE]

Probably with a big lump on the old noggin.

Franz; didn't JT do an acid etc. on his floor before starting any else?

He probably didn't do the necessary acid etch Egon, and now he's going to have to call around to find a contractor to come in and shotblast it or grind it before he can put on appropriate epoxy coating.

I'm afeered the boy ain't gonna make the first cut in the judgin bein that he don't have a payment book to submit for evidence of the build. I'd give him a recommend, but them suit & tie wearin boys on the garage urinal don't like me so it wouldn't help.

JT really ain't got much of a chance anyplace. He don't even have wax for his toolbox and different wax for his welder. He wouldn't even make it on TBN.

Acid etch? I only need the stuff to stick where the skim coat has already been ground off (it's not very deep, so I might not even address it, but I do have extra grout).

The floor was sealed after it was a couple days old, but that hasn't prevented it from soaking up oil.

I did an rx7 engine rebuild in a garage with an epoxy floor, and I can't say I like it. That one didn't have the sand mixed in, and it was slick if it was at all wet. When you add in the sand, then you can't use hard casters or you end up grinding through the epoxy anyway.

Nope, I'll stick to my bare concrete.

Look JT given the points you lost for not having radiant floor heat and no leather couch along with your complete lack of running water and a sink in the shop, you have got to do a proper floor. Bare concrete just doesn't cut it in the 21st century. While I agree with you on epoxy short of a good Torginol floor leaving plenty to want inthe performence department, you gotta upgrade. Look into manufactured wood, or VFT or even RaceDeck. Otherwise you can't even be the cool dude in your hood.

How will Junior be able to hold his head aloft waiting for the schoolbus? Other dads have pegboard on the wall with tool outlines. All you have is a damn overhead crane, a lathe and a mill along with a bunch of welding stuff. Even worse, you can use the stuff you have, and the REPO man never comes to your house. The poor kid could be traumatized.

Shyt Bubba you ain't even got an asset!

Ah, but I have 2 mills. I just need to track down a transformer for the horizontal.

The neighbor kids who thought the cutting torch was fascinating are no longer there, as their house has been relinquished to the bank. I wish that wasn't the case, as their father was a hard worker and very generous when trying to thank you for doing favors. After all, the guy gave me $100 for cutting up a tree that landed in another neighbors yard, and I was just getting it out of her yard because she's 87 and a lawn nazi (a very nice one, but one heck of a stickler for yard maintenance - she sweeps her shoveled driveway to get the dust off it). I even tried refusing the cash but they insisted and I thought it would be offensive to stand firm (they're Vietnamese). I wanted them to give that money to the bank to try to get them to not foreclose, but he'd already thrown in the towel. No handouts for the hard workers that tried to do the right thing, but we can give billions to fat bastards who steal money and call themselves "banks". Yeah, god bless amerika.

I have the envy of all my shop lusting neighbors as it is - I have one and most of them don't.

That will do it, :D If they dont have 1!!!!!!


Your right,help out every one,,This just in,Madhoff,or madcow,can stay in his "penthouse" till the trial starts,,God forbid he would have to go in to a 6 x 10,or what ever size the tv said,,Want to bet that judge didnt have his lifes saving invested???or a nickel.

A what?who turbine,,Hows a broom,,and a concrete floor work,, thos epozy floors are great looking,,dont have wet feet,,your going for a ride!!

We dont have any Jones in Hooterville,Just More snow!!! :(

Speaking of that white crap Jack, when the hell do you show up to plow. All I got so far for that expensive snowplow contract you sold me was a calendar for July 2009 with instructions on the back showin how to fold it into a shovel.

I'd report you to the Better Business Bureau, but they want money to take the damn report.