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Chuckgrmi - September 24, 2008 06:15 PM (GMT)
I am no gardener.

I read about you guys growing all these fruits and vegetables and it amazes me. When we first moved into this house 20 years ago I tried a garden. I had plots of strawberries, rasberries, grapes, blueberries, tomatoes, carotts and pumpkins and between the chipmunks, rabbits, birds, deer and raccoons I didn't get enough to make it worth while.

Now I am trying to grow apples. I bought 6 apple trees 4 years ago. 2 died and the deer ate 1. So I am down to 3 and all I get is 6 or 7 apples on one tree that get to be 11/2" in diameter and then they disappear. Their gone and they are not on the ground any where. I don't know what's going on. My plan was to have a small orchard where I could get apples to throw out for the deer. But it is not working.

I need help. How do you do that?


RLF - September 24, 2008 07:24 PM (GMT)
Sounds like the birds are eating them to me, also what type of trees did you plant? how tall are the trees now? are they close together? I would suggest talking with you county soil and water office, and any orchard that is in your area. they would have the best advise for your tree type that is best, fertilizer, etc. and the county S/W info will be free advice and if like around here they will even send someone out to see what your wanting to do and help ya draw up a plan for it....

Chuckgrmi - September 24, 2008 09:00 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (RLF @ Sep 24 2008, 01:24 PM)
Sounds like the birds are eating them to me, also what type of trees did you plant? how tall are the trees now? are they close together? I would suggest talking with you county soil and water office, and any orchard that is in your area. they would have the best advise for your tree type that is best, fertilizer, etc. and the county S/W info will be free advice and if like around here they will even send someone out to see what your wanting to do and help ya draw up a plan for it....

WOW

I didn't know they did all that.

AFarCry - September 24, 2008 09:27 PM (GMT)
My first call here would be to the county extension office as well.

Don

seaotter - September 24, 2008 09:30 PM (GMT)
Randy has the best avice. In most area's there is a county co- op extension. Many universities will also help. Look in your phone book, there are a few government agencies that can give you help. Go on the web to the Department of Agriculture and similar sites. On many of these you can even download complete books on the subject you're interested in. I had a lot of help from these different agencies when I was raising chickens. If I can find it I have a small 3o page booklet that explains most things about growing apples. If its found, I'll send it to you.

Mark

RLF - September 24, 2008 10:28 PM (GMT)
You betcha Chuck, lot of folks have no idea, can't say for your area, but I would bet they do have these little programs you can sign up for (many different topics) Like Mark spoke on the University, here the U of I you can sign up for gardening type programs (again, many to choose from) and they will assign you with a staff of the students and usually a professor oversees all of it, on many different things, fruit trees, native plants, etc..



We currently have 25 acres in CRP/tree sense "02" and goes for 20 years :) They paid for the trees and to have them put in, we get to do with them what we want after the 20 is up, and the yearly pay is more than enough to cover the property tax.

Leep - September 25, 2008 01:54 AM (GMT)
I tried chicken farming back in Penna years ago.. About every week I'd go back into town and buy another batch of chicks. After about the third or fourth time the guy said, what the heck is going wrong out at your chicken farm anyway.

I scratched my head and said, Well, it is my first time at chicken farming, so I'm not sure if I'm planting them too deep or too far apart... :dunno: :HeadBang:

Leep out:

seaotter - September 25, 2008 02:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Leep @ Sep 24 2008, 09:54 PM)


I scratched my head and said, Well, it is my first time at chicken farming, so I'm not sure if I'm planting them too deep or too far apart... :dunno: :HeadBang:

Leep out:

:rolleyes: Probably both!!! :D

mark

RLF - September 25, 2008 02:56 AM (GMT)
I would guess that to DEEP would be a rookie mistake









:dunno: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

AFarCry - September 25, 2008 02:26 PM (GMT)
:ROFL: :ROFL:

Little point of interest, Chuck, and while your problem is probably birds, we had an interesting lesson here this summer. We moved several of our blueberries to a new spot last spring. They were doing remarkably well and I thought we were going to end up with a bumper crop. We'd fenced around them to keep the bears out but the berries kept disappearing when they were almost ready. I figured we would have to put netting over the top to keep the birds out next year when we discovered a little trail mice or something little had made through one corner of the fence. Little rascals took every berry this year. :mad:
Don

Chuckgrmi - September 25, 2008 02:36 PM (GMT)
I put balloons in a cherry tree one year to scare the birds from it and that was the only year we every got enough cherries to make a pie. After that hassle I went back to buying cherries at the store.




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