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Title: Necron and other FaQs


WYSIWYG - January 16, 2012 06:26 PM (GMT)
Well GW just put out a bunch of FaQs today, including the Necron FaQ. I believe GW hit the nail on the head with the Cron FaQ as it answered all my questions and it all makes perfect sense. I was happy with the outcome for Crons, GW consistently ruled in their favor and fixed the only issues that were abusive. I must say good show old chap, i hope GW continues to put out quality material like this. :lol:

bbart - January 16, 2012 07:14 PM (GMT)
Q: Does Shadow in the Warp affect psykers who are
taking a Psychic test whilst embarked within a
transport vehicle? (p33)
A: Yes

NICE!!!, gratz to Nids for an obvious fix

The Colonel - January 16, 2012 11:35 PM (GMT)
That is a good one, Bart.

This one makes me smile though:

Q: If a model with a Nemsesis Force halberd has had
his Initiative reduced to a fixed number by an
ability/special rule, do they still get the +2 Initiative
from the Halberd? (p54)
A: Yes.

I can't say I agree with how they ruled on Mindshackle Scarabs, but at least it's not worthless now against some opponents.

WYSIWYG - January 17, 2012 03:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (bbart @ Jan 16 2012, 02:14 PM)
Q: Does Shadow in the Warp affect psykers who are
taking a Psychic test whilst embarked within a
transport vehicle? (p33)
A: Yes

NICE!!!, gratz to Nids for an obvious fix

That is a mistake that shouldn't have been made to begin with, i don't know why they ruled the other way in the first place.


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I can't say I agree with how they ruled on Mindshackle Scarabs, but at least it's not worthless now against some opponents.


I don't agree either, they should have ruled that lone models simply lost their attacks, instead of hitting themselves. However i won't complain when i make your guys Durr... CLANG!!!

P.S. Dale if your reading this, for the love of all thats holy stop wasting points on monoliths. I know they used to be good back in your day but now they suck big time, and no you can't justify them or you risk sounding like papalith down here.....

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Lochaber - January 17, 2012 05:00 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
Q: Does Warptime allow the psyker to pick and choose
which To Hit and To Wound dice he will re-roll? (p88)
A: No. He can decide after each To Hit or To Wound roll
but he must re-roll all dice or no dice.


This makes me so sad. :o

WYSIWYG - January 17, 2012 09:19 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Lochaber @ Jan 17 2012, 12:00 AM)
QUOTE
Q: Does Warptime allow the psyker to pick and choose
which To Hit and To Wound dice he will re-roll? (p88)
A: No. He can decide after each To Hit or To Wound roll
but he must re-roll all dice or no dice.


This makes me so sad. :o

Well ,you know what they say, the chaos gods are a fickle lot. Also lol Jaws and B. Lance auto-hit, that's hilarious.

Then their is this little gem, that nerfs psyker battle squads.

QUOTE
Q: Can models embarked upon a vehicle use its fire
points to draw line of sight to a unit to use special
rules or wargear (other than shooting)? (p66)
A: No.


Lol, no more weaken resolve and soulstorm out of the chimera top hatch. :lol:

Seriously though the Cron FaQ is...words can't describe how happy i am with it.....so heres a picture....

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GameFreak975 - January 18, 2012 01:51 PM (GMT)
For the love of...

Like Chaos needed to be slapped with the nerf-bat anymore. Now our one good psychic power is made terrible with a single sentence of a half-butt FAQ

GameFreak975 - January 18, 2012 01:58 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (WYSIWYG @ Jan 17 2012, 04:19 PM)
QUOTE (Lochaber @ Jan 17 2012, 12:00 AM)
QUOTE
Q: Does Warptime allow the psyker to pick and choose
which To Hit and To Wound dice he will re-roll? (p88)
A: No. He can decide after each To Hit or To Wound roll
but he must re-roll all dice or no dice.


This makes me so sad. :o


Well ,you know what they say, the chaos gods are a fickle lot. Also lol Jaws and B. Lance auto-hit, that's hilarious.


Sure, Jaws and Blood Lance get to automatically hit (even though both the SW and BA codices say they are Psychic Shooting Attacks) but Lash of Submission now has to roll to hit (even though it has no profile, doesn't cause wounds or even any casualties, and doesn't say it's a PSA....)

Makes sense to shoot the less competitive armies in the foot, though. I agree.

Dr_Pain - January 18, 2012 04:07 PM (GMT)
Maybe your new codex will be full of awesome, Cameron. :unsure:

Lochaber - January 18, 2012 04:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (GameFreak975 @ Jan 18 2012, 08:58 AM)
Makes sense to shoot the less competitive armies in the foot, though. I agree.

Hey now, Tyranids got some pretty nice buffs with Shadow in the Warp now working as intended and Hive Guard ignoring non-LoS-based cover saves.

Even your Chaos dreads got a nice bump with only being able to target things within their 45-degree weapon arc on Fire Frenzy. Now why GW thinks that Lash and Warptime were being abused, I don't know, but it does seem a bit odd.

WYSIWYG - January 19, 2012 07:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE
Q: Can models embarked upon a vehicle use its fire
points to draw line of sight to a unit to use special
rules or wargear (other than shooting)? (p66)
A: No.


Better just go ahead and ask since its going to come up at some point. Who here believes that the new FaQ ruling listed above makes it impossible for Anrakyer the traveler to use his mind in the machine ability while embarked on an open topped vehicle, and that it also keeps Zahndrhek from using counter tactics while embarked on an open topped vehicle? I believe after having read the open topped section of the rules, that they still can use these abilities as open topped vehicles have no fire point, but embarked models instead measure range and LoS from the hull of the vehicle. So what do you guys think?

The Colonel - January 19, 2012 10:15 PM (GMT)
I can see arguments for either side, but it's a bit of a mess in my opinion.

Open-topped vehicles do not have specific fire-points, instead they may fire, measuring range and line of sight from the hull of the vehicle. It doesn't say they may use other abilities, which is why this distinction they made in FAQ is considered questionable, since I believe the rulebook itself doesn't cover abilities of this nature very extensively.


Logic says yes, but Games Workshop doesn't generally work that way.

Lochaber - February 3, 2012 05:15 PM (GMT)
So the FAQ ruling prohibits models from using (non-shooting) rules and wargear from a vehicle's fire point to draw LoS to targets. Open-topped vehicles have no fire points. But if you allow models to draw LoS from any part of the hull, you're basically treating them as shooting, even if they're not making a shooting attack, so I would say the answer is either

A) Models in open-topped vehicles may not draw line of sight to any enemy units with wargear or rules (other than shooting)

or

B) Models in open-topped vehicles may draw line of sight to any enemy units from any point on the vehicle's hull, but only if the vehicle has moved at combat speed or less that turn.

A seems completely stupid, and B isn't much better, but at least B lets you do it. Essentially you'd be treating all characters/models using non-shooting wargear stuff out of open-topped vehicles as a shooting attack, which makes enough sense to me that I'd be fine with it working that way.




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