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Mark
Posted: Jun 22 2009, 05:31 PM


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I've been doing well against certain opponents, but I still believe there are flaws. Please tell me if there is any.
Replacements are welcomed.

Most are partly EVd
Scizor and Infernape are properly EVd

Porygon-Z/Polybong
Nature: Timid
Ability: Download
Item: ChoiceSpecs
-Tri Attack
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Shadow Ball

Infernape
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Blaze
Item: Choice Band
-Stone Edge
-Thunderpunch
-Flare Blitz
-Close Combat

Starmie/Spermie
Nature: Timid
Ability: Natural Cure
Item: Focus Sash
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
-Recover

Gliscor/Batman
Nature: impish
Ability: Sand Veil
Item: Leftovers
-Aerial Ace
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Roost

Scizor/Izumi
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
Item: Focus Sash
-X-Scissor
-Bullet Punch
-Swords Dance
-Roost

Tangelgrowth/Jewngle
Nature: Timid
Ability: Chlorophyll
Item: Heat Rock
-Ingrain
-Sleep Powder
-SolarBeam
-Sunny Day


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Lazer
Posted: Jun 22 2009, 11:04 PM



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Your team's flaws are:

You seem to have NO Sp defense in your team.
This means that a special sweeper could just rush through your team very easy.

All of the pokemon on your team could be taken down by a Gyarados.
Example: you sent in Gliscor, the foe switches to Gyarados, you swictch, the foe's Gyarados uses Dragon Dance.
Non of your pokemon could catch up to it to stop it.

Not one of your pokemon could resist flying type attacks.

Only one of the Pokemon on your team could resist Psychic.
And that is Siczor, if Siczor is taken down, A Psychic Pokemon could sweep your team.

Other than that...
Your team's all good.

Try to reconstruct your team using this advice.
And if you still cant seem to pull it off, let me know, I'll try and set you up with some specifics.

If you taught your Infernape, Grassknot, it could deal with water types like Swampert with one hit.


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Mark
Posted: Jun 23 2009, 12:31 PM


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ok...so, how about removing Tangelgrowth and putting in a Bronzong?

He's special and resistant to psychic

as far as battling a gyarados, The best I have is Porygon-Z's Thunderbolt and Infernape's Thunder Punch

also, I was thinking about having a Scarf-Heracross, replacing Scizor since everyone has him. However, I would have 2 fighting and would make my team weak to psychic even more. Or I could replace Infernape with Heracross and put Flamethrower on Porygon-Z or something.

what do you think? get the heracross or just stay with what I have?


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Lazer
Posted: Jun 24 2009, 09:25 AM



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Sorry mark I made A little mistake.
I caught it right away, but I lost connection, and wasn't able to get it back in time.

You actually had 2 Pokemon that could resist Psychic, I had forgotten about Starmie.

Brongzong is a good Pokemon for Resisting Psychic, and it has high SpDef.
But still no Resistance to Ghost.

But what you're missing is more resistance for ghost type moves.
Other than Scizor, you have no resistance for Ghost.

I also recommend you change Ingrain into LeechSeed for you Tangroth.
That way you're not nailed down, once you feel like switching out.
Also Leechseed will continue to sap the foe's HP when you use another Pokemon, until your opponent switched their Pokemon.

And Porygon-Z is good for killing Gyarados, but if you switch in Porygon-Z on the same turn Gyarados used DragonDance, Gyarados will be faster than Porygon-Z.
Also, Gyarados will knock Porygon-Z out with one hit.

Now that I think of it, Tangroth may be able to take on the Gyarados, but If Tangroth is hit twice after the DragonDance, Tangroth will faint.

I'd say keep the Scizor, and just get rid of Roost, it's a good move but Siczor is expected to go down in one hit anyway, so it;s best to give it a better useful attack.

If you taught Siczor Pursuit, you could Nail a Pokemon when it needs to be switched.
Or you could teach it Double hit. A Pokemon using Substitute is useless when you have this move.
There's also RockSmash, the move lowers Def, and it's a fighting type move.

And the best thing about all 3 is, Technician powers up, all of these weak moves!

Using a Scarf Haracross is too situational, because you'll need to switch it out when someone sends a Pokemon to resist your one move.
And don't have 2 Fighting Pokemon on the same team, because it will add to your Flying, and Psychic type weakness.


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Mark
Posted: Jun 24 2009, 08:57 PM


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yes i knew about having two fightings and the weakness

I one hit Ghost types usually with Porygon-Z, but i see your point

ok, so how about replacing Gliscor with Bronzong
and then applying Leech Seed to tangelgrowth
and finally changing roost to pursuit on scizor, we good now?




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Lazer
Posted: Jun 25 2009, 08:24 AM



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You have Siczor, Bronzong, and Tangrowth now.
These 3 have one thing in common.
Their weaknesses to fire.
Also, you need to see that having 2 Steel types on your teem also means 2 targets for Magnezone to Magnet pull.
This means they wont be able to switch out.


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Mark
Posted: Jun 25 2009, 11:45 AM


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omg your right, lol

well jeez...maybe i should get rid of tangelgrowth then and get another DEF wall.

idk about scizor though. Maybe replace with Salamence.
I would really like to keep Bronzong over Scizor.

....how about Weezing? I wouldn't know what to do for attacks but it has a meaty def.


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PsiUmbreon
Posted: Jul 7 2009, 04:45 AM


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Tangrowth is actually a great pokemon for taking on Gyarados. Give it defensive EVs and either Power Whip or Grass Knot and you're set. I'd say Power Whip because that hurts more Pokemon harder than Grass Knot. You can switch Tangrowth into Gyarados. Even if it runs Ice Fang. If you EV it right it can take 3 Ice Fangs even after one Dragon Dance, and 2hko with Power Whip. If the Gyarados has Waterfall/Earthquake, you're set.

Tangrowth should be like this:

Item: Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Ability: doesn't really matter but Chlorophyll might be slightly more useful.
EVs: 252 HP, 84 Atk, rest Defense

Sleep Powder
Knock Off
Power Whip
Leech Seed

This will annoy the crap out of people, as when they switch they'll have to worry about being slept, having their item removed, or being Leech Seeded. The 84 attack is so it can hurt stuff as well as 2hko a Gyarados with Power Whip if it didn't Intimidate the Tangrowth. If it did it's still a 3hko.

Honestly psychics and flyers aren't that big of a deal, if you use Scizor the Bullet Punch will hurt them. Also, tell me what flying attack people will use commonly in OU? ...that's right, there are none. So who gives a crap about flying resistance?

The Fire weakness IS a problem, but you can turn it against your opponent by including something with Flash Fire on your team. Particularly a Heatran. They want to use Fire? They'll think twice about it once you bring in your Heatran to absorb the fire move, then hit back really hard with its own boosted Fire move. And let's see Magnezone stay in against Heatran.

As for Scizor I'd probably also give it a third attack over Roost, because too much would wall you with just Bullet Punch and X-scissor. I'd recommend Superpower, Brick Break, or Quick Attack. Double Hit and Rock Smash are a little iffy, but you could try those too.

Give Starmie Thunderbolt instead of ice beam and use the Tangrowth I mentioned and Gyarados will be no problem for you.


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Posted: Jul 7 2009, 11:27 AM


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Actually, i was thinking about putting Tangelgrowth back into my team, since he did work even without being EVd.

I already put thunderbolt on starmie

I would like to have Heatran, but then I would have 3 steels: Scizor, Heatran, and Bronzong.

I've put bronzong in my team and he's an excellent wall. I don't have a problem replacing Scizor, it's just i'm unsure as to who.


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Posted: Jul 9 2009, 10:30 AM



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BraveBird, and ArealAce are moves to worry about.
sooner or later, you'll have a battle with someone using a Scyther with Technician and ArealAce.
And you may incounter a Skarmory with BraveBird.
Don't underestemate your opponent.
Prepare for any weakness.
Because once a foe knows your weakness, they will exploit it!


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PsiUmbreon
Posted: Jul 14 2009, 06:28 AM


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You can never cover everything. But you can cover the more common threats. If you play smart, the less common ones will fall, too. I don't know about you but if I had the choice between making my team unable to get 6-0 swept by Gyarados and preparing for someone dumb enough to use a Scyther in OU with Stealth Rock and Steel pokemon everywhere... I'd choose the option with Gyarados.

Also Scyther is not a real threat to your team. Neither is Skarmory. Ironically, Scizor is one of the best counters to Scyther that ever existed. Even if Scyther doesn't lose 50% of its health right off the bat from Stealth Rock, Bullet Punch will probably make it go squish in one hit like the Bug-type it is before it even gets a chance to move. Skarmory isn't going to do much to Tangrowth with Brave Bird unless it has 252 attack EVs, If this is the case then it means they didn't EV defense or HP, which means the Skarmory is much easier to take out. Honestly though who puts 252 Attack EVs on Skarmory? not many people. Who uses Scyther? not many people. Who uses Staraptor? not many people. Staraptor is a bit more threatening than Scyther, but Stealth Rock and Brave Bird recoil will cause your Scizor's Bullet Punch to make it go squish as if it were a Bug type. Or the emo bird can just kill itself with Brave Bird.

Oh and never forget that random people on wifi are all one collective consciousness. If you play one of them and they notice you have three Pokemon weak to Flying, the next Agent Smith you battle will purposefully put Flying moves on all their sweepers just to thwart you, never mind that Flying is a pretty useless attack type in most other cases anyway.

By the way Steel types are good. You can have three on your team because they don't all share the same weaknesses. And they are the only type to resist moves like Draco Meteor and Outrage that will tear you up. They're immune to Toxic and Toxic Spikes, most take half damage from Stealth Rock, and they don't take any Sandstorm damage from those Tyranitars and Hippowdons that are everywhere. Bronzong and Scizor attract Fire moves like flies to crap. That's when you send out Heatran to make them go "ohshit, shouldn't have done that.' Heatran hates Earthquakes, but Bronzong with Levitate lols at them, and Scizor only takes normal damage from it. And let's see a Magnezone stay in against Heatran. Or take a Fighting move or two if you can predict it coming in on Scizor. My point is that Steel types are okay to have three of in some cases.

And omg don't replace Scizor, he rocks! If you have to replace something I'd replace the Infernape for Heatran, because Latias is becoming common in OU and Infernape can't really do crap to it. Especially without Hidden Power Ice. Heatran can at least Dragon Pulse Latias for a 2hko. Infernape is still a good Pokemon though. So it is tough.


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Posted: Jul 14 2009, 06:32 AM


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Huge wall of text crits for over 9000, by the way.


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Posted: Jul 14 2009, 10:54 PM


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QUOTE (PsiUmbreon @ Jul 14 2009, 06:32 AM)
Huge wall of text crits for over 9000, by the way.

uber advice is uber


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