How do you compose?, Describing how you compose...
Debussy20
Posted: Feb 4 2007, 04:16 AM


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How do you compose? As a 13 year old, I really havn't experimented that much in terms of writing. My music in NOT that complex, but it still sounds good.
I remember asking to use the restroom during science class just to play the piano in the auditorium (hope my teachers dont read this... tongue.gif )

Do and how do you compose?

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Book_Worm
Posted: Feb 4 2007, 12:56 PM


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(What does going to the auditorium have to do with composing?)

To start composing you need to have a main theme in mind. Such as starting on C, then modulating to G, then F, and back to C. In technical terms thats C major tonnic to C major dominant to C major four chord and back to the tonnic. Thats a basic pattern that is used a lot in composing.

After using the basic theme for a few measures you should change the chord pregression. C tonnic---C third chord----C fourth chord in the second inversion---
C tonnic. This is also written as C---E---F 2nd inversion---C.

After a while of progressivly getting farthur and farthur away from your base theme you
change back to your main theme. This usually happens at the end of the piece or at the end of a section of the piece.
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Posted: Feb 4 2007, 01:40 PM


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I think the most important part of composing is coming up with melodies. Noodling around on the piano would seem a good way to achieve this, although some composers have been known simply to notate them without even having played them on a piano. ohmy.gif
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Posted: Feb 4 2007, 01:41 PM


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Mozart was like that, he was reported to have written down whole symphanies without even hearing one note of them played by a musician.
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Debussy20
Posted: Feb 4 2007, 02:53 PM


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Sorry about that...

If i ever get a melody in my headm I must play it. OR i WILL forget it. Therefore, a few times, I've asked to go to the bathroom just to figure out a melody to remember it.

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playadom
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QUOTE (Debussy20 @ Feb 4 2007, 02:53 PM)
Sorry about that... 

If i ever get a melody in my headm I must play it.  OR i WILL forget it.  Therefore, a few times, I've asked to go to the bathroom just to figure out a melody to remember it. 

Matt



It is hard to remember sometimes.

I'm just glad we live in an age where we have computers to help us compose.
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Book_Worm
Posted: Feb 4 2007, 03:21 PM


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QUOTE
QUOTE (Debussy20 @ Feb 4 2007, 02:53 PM)
Sorry about that...

If i ever get a melody in my headm I must play it.  OR i WILL forget it.  Therefore, a few times, I've asked to go to the bathroom just to figure out a melody to remember it.

Matt



It is hard to remember sometimes.

I'm just glad we live in an age where we have computers to help us compose.
brojek.


Computers cant express a lot of emotion. They don't feel the music like real people can.
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playadom
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QUOTE (PolskaLancer @ Feb 4 2007, 03:21 PM)
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QUOTE (Debussy20 @ Feb 4 2007, 02:53 PM)
Sorry about that...

If i ever get a melody in my headm I must play it.  OR i WILL forget it.  Therefore, a few times, I've asked to go to the bathroom just to figure out a melody to remember it.

Matt



It is hard to remember sometimes.

I'm just glad we live in an age where we have computers to help us compose.
brojek.


Computers cant express a lot of emotion. They don't feel the music like real people can.

I was speaking about writing down the music.
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Debussy20
Posted: Feb 4 2007, 03:29 PM


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Composers have dumped their soul into many a work without the use of computers. Just because you have the technology doesn't mean we must use it for everything...

Matt
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Book_Worm
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QUOTE (playadom @ Feb 4 2007, 03:25 PM)
QUOTE (PolskaLancer @ Feb 4 2007, 03:21 PM)
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QUOTE (Debussy20 @ Feb 4 2007, 02:53 PM)
Sorry about that...

If i ever get a melody in my headm I must play it.  OR i WILL forget it.  Therefore, a few times, I've asked to go to the bathroom just to figure out a melody to remember it.

Matt



It is hard to remember sometimes.

I'm just glad we live in an age where we have computers to help us compose.
brojek.


Computers cant express a lot of emotion. They don't feel the music like real people can.

I was speaking about writing down the music.

I understand that, but writing solely at the computer is a bad way to write music.
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Debussy20
Posted: Feb 4 2007, 04:36 PM


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you would know abou that.... tongue.gif
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Posted: Feb 4 2007, 11:41 PM


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I'm getting better at not using a computer. But sometimes it is really trying on my patiance to sit for long periods at a time at the piano and play around with a few chords. That just doesn't enthrall me.
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cassle
Posted: Feb 21 2007, 12:39 PM


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Just for information to who haven't know that...
With Finale 2006 (I don't wanna advertise here, just in case tell you my information) can scan music sheets and with other software (for the example... CutePdf, that I got from my friend), you can easily convert the finale's file type to pdf. So, you don't need to sit in front of your computer for a long time.
The other way is using a midi keyboard, (finale support to input from a midi keyboard too...), you even don't need to click and click and other clicks to input the notes.
But unfortunately, I haven't buy the keyboard..
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And it support a human play back too, just in case to make the playback more lively.. But not as live as a real human playing tough..
At least, the computer won't ever touch the wrong tuts like human do.
Sorry for the bad English, my grammar isn't the best.
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playadom
Posted: Feb 21 2007, 03:08 PM


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I use Finale, it's pretty easy. When I said compose at the computer, I was talking about just entering notes. I always do the improv/composage at the piano.

If I had a MIDI keyboard, it would be so much easier to enter. Something to save for someday...

brojek.
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cassle
Posted: Mar 26 2008, 12:02 PM


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Yes, I want to buy a MIDI keyboard someday (maybe I'll ask it as my birthday present).. Do anybody have a recomendation about which MIDI keyboard I should buy? Well, I hope something not too pricey..
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