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 Manliness Debate - Mandatory presence for men,, voluntary for the ladies
Dark Phantom
Posted: Jun 13 2007, 10:38 PM


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I'll start off with a simple disclaimer:
By no means is this topic supposed to have any sort of sexist content. Due to the many, yet brief, mentionings of manliness points; I have concluded that we must determine what increases and decreases manliness points for men worldwide.

The purpose for having this needed classification is that I wish to create a simple sprite game that has its focal point around manliness points.

So, gentile-men, how do we kill super man?

At the immediate moment, I'm trying to determine what will generate these points. Any thoughts?

I'm thinking macho-ism and brass balls are large point generators.
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Posted: Jun 14 2007, 12:20 AM


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A grenade launcher sounds like a good point cache.

A machine gun is a panzy weapon and should be placed at the bottom. Miniguns are about the same, maybe a little higher.
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Posted: Jun 14 2007, 12:37 AM


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Allright to clarify a few things you might not know here is the history behind manly points

The original creator of manliness points is Johnny DeAmaral and me and my friends helped establish the rules of said points. I was the one who brought it to KG and now you too are about to informed on the beauty of manliness.

What originally inspired a point system for manliness is that commercial where the guy pulls some chest hair out to redeem his manliness.

Anyway let me lay down some of the basic rules of manliness points:

-There is a finite number of manliness points in the known universe

-Whenever someone gains manliness points, someone else is losing them. There are two such examples of this scenario- a direct point transfer (i.e. Subject A punches subject B and subject whines about it; Subject A gains points and Subject B loses points) and indirect point transfers (Subject A in China wears a dress for a day and Subject B rides a motorcycle through a ring of fire; the point transfer initiates the second someone does something as manly as someone else doing something unmanly until then the points are on hiatus)

-The main goal is to stay in the positive but some who enjoy competition compete for the most points. An example of the first is maybe you want to have a tea party. Well first you're going to have to go to a biker bar and armwrestle 15 people- now you can have your tea party and be back to where you started

-If you lose all your manly points you enter the danger zone and are now technically a girl- once you go all the way there's only one way to come back... to cut off your own balls, drink the resulting blood then take someone else's and sew it back on with rusty barbed wire

-It's manly to break the law but it's manlier to uphold it. A classic example is that it's manly to pick on someone but it's much manlier to stand up for the little guy.

-When in doubt- be a jerk! (The principles of manliness are to pick on those weaker than you.)

Now that you understand the rules, I would be happy to answer any questions you have on what's manly or not :grin:
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Dark Phantom
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 02:09 AM


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Alright... if Hanz goes running about in a skirt - which we all fear of - how does it affect all participants of such a tragic event?
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Posted: Jun 20 2007, 02:27 AM


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Well skirts and dresses are a mixed blessing- if you're just wearing a skirt, you're losing manliness points for that but if you're tough enough to pull it off (like in Hanz' case) you gain points

None off us lose them though, I beleive
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Dark Phantom
Posted: Jun 20 2007, 02:40 AM


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So then, it's more a matter of a health hazard for us. Haha!
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Posted: Jun 20 2007, 02:26 PM


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Manliness points are subjective.

The system you have specified above, despite having some quite relevant points, is not the only system to go by. It's more realistic than idealistic, but seeing as manliness is more of an ideal than a reality, a more ideal list would suffice.

For instance, I disagree that a tea party has to deduct points. For instance, if you are sitting around a table, drinking tea, and you are with another person, that makes you a party of two enjoying tea.

And that's a tea party. Drinking tea does not make one less manly, it's the way you do it.

And, this is where the whole manliness factor comes in. Manliness is equal to badassery, and if you are drinking tea in a badass way, your manliness points would increase drastically, as, to my knowledge, there are no ways of drinking tea in a badass way, and seeing as it would be hard to pull off, you'd get more points for that. Most people stay neutral for drinking tea, but one would lose points for drinking out of a really sappy cup or drinking Unfortunate herbal tea or putting sugar in it.

Also, I disagree that being a dick = manly. You have to going about being a dick in the right way.

You can't just act like arsehole to anyone, they have to be either noticably pathetic, but not an easy target, or an arrogant arsehole who everyone hates and needs to be taken down a peg.

Most of all, you need to get away with being an arsehole. If you get punched, or the guy gets you angry, or his own back, then all of what you've done has been for nothing. And, it all needs to look effortless.

On the subject of getting punched, the best way to be manly in a fight is either just beat the crap out of the guy and make him seem as pathetic as possible, or let him have the edge, then use that edge to exploit his every weakness.



Manliness isn't about strength, it's about wit. Strength helps, but in the end, a strong quick-to-anger idiot is easily out-witted by someone with half a brain.

And that's my opinion on the subject. Bear in mind, I am probably talking about more of an ideal which you'd use for perhaps fictional characters instead of real-life people.

As manliness irl doesn't really exist.

feel free to ask me to elaborate on any of the points i have made

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Posted: Jun 21 2007, 01:34 AM


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I agree with all that

Tea parties is just like my case with Hanz and skirts
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Dark Phantom
Posted: Jun 21 2007, 03:14 AM


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I have an idea as to how we can achieve a bad-assery tea party... it involves ninjas, the matrix, and a great need for balance.

So, shall I continue posting any random situation that comes to mind, or shall we use this thread to hold council on members flagged for deductions?
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Posted: Jun 22 2007, 01:23 AM


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Let's do both
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Dark Phantom
Posted: Jun 28 2007, 02:24 AM


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A thought occurred to me, and I'm hoping that it remains as true... (otherwise KGS may take a turn in its plot)

Is there a central point where all the points are collected and redistributed in the universe? Like a force point?
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Posted: Jun 28 2007, 04:26 PM


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I'd say yes, but it wouldn't be at a fixed point. It'd gravitate towards a place where loads of manliness points are being distributed or returned. Also, I'm guessing it wouldn't be a physical thing.

So, taking that into account, it'd just be a place in the universe where all these not-quite-physical things named manliness points gather, that moves towards places where it is needed.

It'd probably be a lot easier to gain and lose manliness points depending on your position in relation to the place, too.
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Posted: Jun 29 2007, 03:52 PM


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There's no real way to tell I guess but TJ's idea sounds about right.

My guess is maybe a heavenly body like Mars or the Sun
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Dark Phantom
Posted: Jun 29 2007, 04:11 PM


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I've got the perfect name for the location: Machismo
"a strong or exaggerated sense of manliness; an assumptive attitude that virility, courage, strength, and entitlement to dominate are attributes or concomitants of masculinity."


And now another question - what happens to the points of the deceased?
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TJPlatinum
Posted: Jun 29 2007, 04:21 PM


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Well, I think the way people die would effect someone's manliness points.

But that's not really what you're asking, heh.. I'd say that the points of the deceased move to the person's next of kin.

Those points would probably be easier to lose than any other points the person has gained, and the person would only be able to gain them if they have a decent amount themselves. If they don't, they'd probably be lost.
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