Title: HELP AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
Description: My PC keeps pooping!
Patty - May 18, 2007 12:06 PM (GMT)
Can someone please help me? My computer took ANOTHER dump while I was sleeping. When I restarted it, it beeped twice and woulnd't load windows. I restarted AGAIN, and it finally started.
Can someone please help me? I'll be home around 7.
What is causing it to dump? WHY??? Can this be related to my titan lag issues?
Backdraft - May 18, 2007 01:33 PM (GMT)
No answers for ya Patty I just wanted to get under ya before anyone else did : )
Patty - May 18, 2007 01:45 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Backdraft @ May 18 2007, 09:33 AM) |
| No answers for ya Patty I just wanted to get under ya before anyone else did : ) |
LOL Geezzzz, BD!
THE STEW - May 18, 2007 02:53 PM (GMT)
Patty, try giving it some cheese, It usually will stop some of the dumping...
IH_Jimbo - May 18, 2007 05:20 PM (GMT)
If your computer is going through crash dumps, it means some application process caused a memory page fault that was unrecoverable and the OS crashed. This is usually caused by a problematic hardware driver or an application that does a poor job of memory mangement. There are usually .dmp files that are created. For this to start happening now, it usually indicates something was incompatible with a change to the computer configuration. Was hardware or drivers changed? Windows updates possibly? Did you install any new programs or patches recently? Since it is occuring overnight, I would suspesct it is something to do with ACPI(Advanced Configuration Power Interface) which is the software that controls how your computer manages electricity, ie goes to sleep, screensaver, shuts off disks, etc. It would be a relatively basic diagnosis if I physically had the computer. I probswbly can diagnose it using remote control software. I use logmein.com. It is free, safe ,and works great. I have used it with BD, Lookout, RJOSB, Bagel, and others to fix thier pcs remotely. Talk with me on TS tonight.
Patty - May 18, 2007 06:07 PM (GMT)
Thanks so much, Jim!! Yes, I have no problem with you connecting to my PC.. just don't look at the nude pics of BD I have as my wallpaper!
I will need some help opening up my PC to allow you access - Kim and I tried and it wouldn't let her in.
It's funny about the memory thing - sometimes my PC forgets to run the screen saver and it won't run. Lately my PC has been winding a lot and making loud spinning noises. I dont know why - I did just update the drivers for my vid card because the Titan mode has been lagging me lately. Windows did also just update last week, too.
The dump only happens over night.. even with the unit not being used all day, it's fine when I get home. It just likes to poop when I sleep.
Thanks again for offering to help. I'm leaving at 5:30 est, so I'll be home by 6 -
Backdraft - May 18, 2007 09:15 PM (GMT)
Damn Patty three times in one day!
PsyBorg - May 18, 2007 10:53 PM (GMT)
And don't look at the nude pics of Patty herself!!!! I keep tellin' her to send me some so we can make her Babe of the Month!....LOL!
Patty - May 18, 2007 11:07 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (PsyBorg @ May 18 2007, 06:53 PM) |
| And don't look at the nude pics of Patty herself!!!! I keep tellin' her to send me some so we can make her Babe of the Month!....LOL! |
Hey.. those nude pics are very well hidden!!
EagleFyre - May 19, 2007 06:56 AM (GMT)
Hey patty what type of puter you running again????
Patty - May 19, 2007 11:37 AM (GMT)
The 5150 Windows Media version
EagleFyre - May 20, 2007 05:17 AM (GMT)
5150, ewwwwww. Tell me the media center edition is atleast 2005, if not shoot it and send it back. =)
Drop me an email with the .dmp file in it. It will be located in C:\windows\minidump.
Might be a few in there, look at the date on them and send me the latest one. Eaglexman@excite.com
Patty - May 20, 2007 07:01 AM (GMT)
it's XP Media version!
Jimbo connected to my PC and found out it's an error with live update and that there's a hotfix, only Windows doesnt support it. My computer wouldn't let me download it, link kept saying page unavailable.
So what is wrong with the 5150? It's a Pentium 4 -it can't be that bad? Should I get a new one?
EagleFyre - May 20, 2007 11:20 PM (GMT)
Other than most of them have major heat problems. Also is that the SVCHost.ece 100% problem??? If it is I have a website that will help ya out.
EF
Patty - May 20, 2007 11:38 PM (GMT)
How can it have a heat problem when it has that huge opening in the front of the PC that allows all that air in to cool it?
the SVCHOST.exe? What is that? I see it in task manager?
The problem was with Norton's live update
Jimbo can you explain what happened? I was finally able to dl the hotfix.
EagleFyre - May 21, 2007 01:02 AM (GMT)
If you had the 100% on the svchost your computer would be slow and your windows updater wont work right. It also locks up you computer on the internet.
Patty - May 21, 2007 01:25 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (EagleFyre @ May 20 2007, 09:02 PM) |
| If you had the 100% on the svchost your computer would be slow and your windows updater wont work right. It also locks up you computer on the internet. |
How would I know if I have this 100% thing or not?
HvyMtl - May 21, 2007 01:46 AM (GMT)
By 100% he means the amount of your processor's power that that process is using. To view that you just hit control+alt+del and go to the processes tab and look in the CPU column to see the percentage its using. Its also normal for there to be more than one instance of svchost.exe running at the same time. If you see a process of scvhost.exe running (the C and V switched), that means you've got a virus.
On the heat problem, if the processor's heatsink has become dislodged from the processor that would greatly decrease its ability to cool the processor to the point where it could overheat enough to damage your CPU. This was the source of my parents' computer's overheating problem and I had to remove it, clean the thermal paste, re-apply new paste and re-seat the heatsink.
IH_Jimbo - May 21, 2007 06:04 AM (GMT)
The filter manager would cause a gpf under certain cirumstances when the Norton scanner and LiveUpdate would run. MS had a technote & hotfix for the filter manager issues in senarios such as this. It was very consistent in the data in the crash dumps.
Eagle is correct in the lack of cooling in the lower end Dimension Desktopns, regardless of the amount of air intake available, the system is not very good at cooling, plus the prescott P4 cpus are notoriously hot to begin with. The 512mb of RAM is not helping matters either. A typical XP machine which all of the normal items running will use between 350 to 450 mb of ram just at idle. That leaves between 60 to 170 available for programs that are user initiated. When the thresold is reached for available system memory, the OS will start to page least used memory to disk, or swap as most people know it by. This will cause performance issues big time.
You said you got the hotfix downloadeed, did it install correctly?
Patty - May 21, 2007 10:37 AM (GMT)
It didn't give me an error message during the install... so I guess it did install correctly.
HvyMtl - May 21, 2007 02:11 PM (GMT)
Jim what would you recommend as far as the cooling problem? I personally would remove the stock heatsink and fan and replace it with a better one. Something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835186134or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835118003as well as possibly adding another case fan, as some of the Dell cases have an extra spot in the rear of the case for another fan thats unoccupied, but I dunno if you'd be up for installing that stuff yourself Patty. Were I coming to Florida already, I'd do if for you for a beer or two tho, :-).
Patty - May 21, 2007 09:13 PM (GMT)
All this stuff is mumbo jumbo to me! Thanks for the offer, Brian.
IH_Jimbo - May 21, 2007 10:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (HvyMtl @ May 21 2007, 09:11 AM) |
Jim what would you recommend as far as the cooling problem? I personally would remove the stock heatsink and fan and replace it with a better one. Something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835186134 or this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835118003 as well as possibly adding another case fan, as some of the Dell cases have an extra spot in the rear of the case for another fan thats unoccupied, but I dunno if you'd be up for installing that stuff yourself Patty. Were I coming to Florida already, I'd do if for you for a beer or two tho, :-). |
Based on what I have seen, I don't think it is overheating, it may get quite warm during gameplay, but still tolerable. That cooler you listed is the only one I use for 775PGA cpus, but I do not think the Dell chassis have room for one of those. I would say with a memory upgrade ,it would be as much mod as you would want to do to that class pc. It should work fine.
HvyMtl - May 21, 2007 11:38 PM (GMT)
Which one were you referring to, the first or the second. I didn't really consider the case room factor... whoops.
IH_Jimbo - May 22, 2007 02:09 AM (GMT)
I was referring to the CPU cooler