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Darryl The Hitman - August 5, 2006 03:05 AM (GMT)
For those who have never seen this before, this can kill quite a few hours at work: Urban Legends Of Professional Wrestling .

When you're finished reading, you can either add more here or comment about the ones you read there.

Willsbigboy - August 5, 2006 03:15 AM (GMT)
A lot of them seem so farfetched, but without knowing any of the guys in real life it wouldnt suprise me if every single one of them were true. Lots of crazy peoples in this world.

Darryl The Hitman - August 5, 2006 03:17 AM (GMT)
Yeah, they might all be fake but they're damned fun to read. ^_^

Quadruple Tree - August 5, 2006 03:41 AM (GMT)

EDIT: Item 34 sounds correct. Sheik did say that Gagne didn't want him to job to Hoak, and to bring the WWF belt to Minneapolis.

Darryl The Hitman - February 25, 2007 10:55 PM (GMT)
Thought I'd pina nd bump this one for anyone who hasn't clicked on the link in the first post yet.

Darryl The Hitman - July 14, 2007 06:24 PM (GMT)
Over at they posted areview of a shoot DVD featuring Raven and The Honky Tonk Man and they agve their take on these tales:

And now Raven and Honky Tonk Man will take a look at some of the “Scumiest Stories In Wrestling” that was made famous of the Death Valley Driver message board a few years ago, adding their insights into whether the stories are true or not. Raven reads the questions and chooses to skip over the ones he doesn’t want to bury anybody with.

#1 Kevin Sullivan vacations at nudist colonies
HTM: Thinks it’s probably true from the time they spent as tag team partners years ago.
Raven: Thinks it’s true because Sullivan had a lot of crazy fashions like wearing sweat pants and cowboy boots every day in WCW.

#2 Tommy Rich Bleached His Pubic Hair
HTM: If he did it wasn’t intentionally.
Raven: Thinks it’s true because “the drapes didn’t match the carpet.” (Ya gotta keep kayfabe, right?)

#3 Tommy Rich Gave A Blowjob To Jim Barnett For The NWA Title
HTM: Thinks it’s definitely false because Tommy Rich was over enough to get the title on his own merits. Honky thinks Rich was the Hulk Hogan of his time.
Raven: Also believes it’s false because it sounds like a rumor a jealous wrestler would start who didn’t get a push.

#4 Virgil Got Hired In The WWE Because Pat Patterson Was Impressed With His Big Dick
HTM: He caught him jerking off two handed in the showers one night so he thinks it‘s probably possible.
Raven: He has seen Virgil’s dick first hand and also thinks it’s true. He says that one time he was talking to Virgil and he said having a massive dick isn’t as good as it sounds because out of the nearly 200 women he had had sex with he could only put his dick in all the way into 2 women.

#5 Gene Kiniski Bought Kevin Von Erich A Hooker In Las Vegas When He Was 12
HTM: Thinks it could be true because most Canadians he knows lost their virginity a lot younger than the Americans he knows so Gene would probably help Kevin out in getting laid young.
Raven: “It’s probably true because he paid the hooker in Canadian money and got her cheaper.”

#6 Kerry Von Erich Killed A Cat Backstage By Tossing A Saw Blade At It
Raven: Thinks it’s possibly true because Kerry was a talented discus thrower.
HTM: “Yeah, but he couldn’t read a cue card, though.”

#7 The Brooklyn Brawler Is Pat Patterson’s Boyfriend
HTM: During his WWF run he saw no evidence that that is true.
Raven: Also didn’t seen any proof while he was with the WWE.

#8 The Rock n Roll Express Walked In On Jimmy Valiant Jerking Off Under A Glass Table As A Hooker Shits On It. Ricky Throws Up And Leaves While Robert Stays To Watch
Raven: Thinks it’s true.
HTM: Thinks Ricky would have liked it and wouldn’t have left.

#9 Dusty Rhodes Had Baby Doll Fired For Marrying Sam Houston
Raven: Dusty admitted to him once that it’s true.

#10 Victor Quiones Raped Tarzan Boy At Gunpoint
HTM: Thinks it’s false because Victor just paid wrestlers money when he wanted to fuck them.

#11 Dusty Rhodes Booked Rick Steiner To Beat Ric Flair At Starrcade In 20 Seconds
Raven: Probably true because Dusty would want to do that to Flair.

#12 Paul Boesch Did A Jewish Champion Gimmick Until A Jewish Magazine Writer Walked In On Him In The Shower And Saw He Wasn’t Circumcised
HTM: Unsure because that was before he was born.
Raven: False because he’s pretty sure Paul never left Texas and there is no way they’d do a Jewish wrestling gimmick there.

#13 Jimmy Snuka Murdered A Woman In A Hotel Room And Vince McMahon Got Him Out Of Charges
HTM: Believes it is 100% false because nobody ever mentioned it in his WWF stay and he’s never seen anything about it other than one magazine article in Penthouse and rumors of it on the internet, neither of which are good sources. The only thing he heard from anybody was that he had a girlfriend who committed suicide by jumping off of a building and that’s how the rumor got started.
Raven: Thinks it sounds like an urban legend. He thinks Jimmy Snuka is too nice to murder anyone.

“You’re right, the quiet nice ones never do it....” - Chris Benoit

#14 Raven Got Caught In A Hotel Room With A 15 Year Old Becky Bayless
Raven: He shared a room one night with Joel Gertner’s wife who allowed then-ECW Rat Bayless to sleep in there as well. Joel Gertner got pissed off that his wife was spending time with Raven and called the cops to claim Raven was having sex with a 15 year old to get revenge. Raven got interrogated about it but then let him go because they believed he was innocent a few hours later.
HTM: “You did break in at Lawler’s territory!”

#15 Sabu Ate Out A Valet In A Indie Show Locker Room And When A Fellow Wrestler Asked Him If It Was Good He Said “Smell My Moustache”
HTM: False because Sabu is always outside smoking weed and never in locker rooms.

#16 Johnny Valentine Hid Shit In Every Hotel Room He Stayed At
Raven: Has heard that is true.
HTM: It’s probably true, and he caught Greg pissing inside of hotel ice chests which made him never want to take hotel ice again.

#17 Shawn Michaels Brought Three Rats Back To His Hotel Room, Ordered Them To Get On Their Knees, Pulled Out His Dick And Pissed In Their Mouths
HTM: “Marty Jannetty would do that.”

#18 Bruiser Brody Was Going To Do A Shoot Run-In On Hulk Hogan At The First Wrestlemania
Raven: False because a shoot run-in is a oxymoron and Brody didn’t care about the WWF enough to want to ruin their show.
HTM: False for the same reason Raven said.

#19 Gagne Offered Iron Sheik $100,000 To Break Hulk Hogan’s Legs During Their WWF Match
Raven: Iron Sheik swears it’s true but he isn’t sure.
HTM: “Maybe if they paid him in gimmick.”

#20 The Clique Shit In Jerry Lawler’s Crown At The 1994 Royal Rumble
HTM: Lawler did get his crown shat in while in the WWF but he isn’t sure if The Clique did it.
Raven: True and they sent a memo around to the WWF roster demanding they stop shitting in Jerry Lawler’s crown people did it so much. A lot of people bitter at Lawler for their Memphis pay days were the ones who did it.

#21 Taka Michinoku Fucked Sunny While Chris Candido Watched
Raven: “Well, Candido probably didn’t watch....”
HTM: “Poor Chris. Good guys finish last or they die first. And Jake Roberts is going to live forever. So will Jim Neidhardt.”

#22 Ronnie P. Gossett Paid To Blow Buff Bagwell
HTM: False, but Gossett has done things like that to other wrestlers, but not Buff.
Raven: Agrees it is false.

#23 Wolfie D Was Selling PG-13 Pictures That Bill Dundee Demanded Money From And Wolfie Pulled A Knife On Him
HTM: Doesn’t believe Wolfie would pull a knife on anybody but JC Ice probably would or maybe Bill pulled a knife on them since he once pulled a gun on Randy Savage.

#24 Moolah And Mae Young Are Lesbian Lovers
HTM: Hopes it’s false because it’s disgusting to think about.
Raven: Loves Moolah & Mae’s work, especially when Mae gave birth to a hand on Raw which he marked out for.

#25 Brian Christopher Tried To Get Eddie Guerrero To Party With Him After Eddie Got Sober
HTM: Possibly true because Brian is a party boy.

#26 Pedro Morales Pawned His WWF Title
HTM: False but Nick Bockwinkel sold the AWA belt in Japan.

#27 Tammy Sytch Likes Having Phone Sex With Indie Workers
HTM: “Tammy isn’t one to phone it in.”

#28 The Colorado Kid Paid To Win The NWA Title
HTM: Probably true because many other champs including Ric Flair paid to get some of NWA title runs. And Honky doesn’t blame anybody for doing that because he’d make a deal with Vince to get a title run in exchange for half of his earnings.

#29 Kevin Von Erich Got A Woman To Take 11 Year Old Chris Von Erich’s Virginity
HTM: Probably true because Chris Von Erich was involved in the party scene younger than anybody else he’s ever heard of.

#30 Curt Hennig Shit Under The Ring When He Was Waiting With Scott Norton To Do A Nitro Run-In
Raven: True and it made Norton vomit all over himself.

#31 Bill Watts Pissed Off Of The CNN Towers
HTM: Definitely true.

#32 Eric Bischoff Admitted He Paid For Strippers At Atlanta’s Gold Club To Have Sex With His Wife While He Watched
HTM: True because that court testimony was on the news.

#33 Raven Didn’t Wear Clothes Backstage In TNA Until Someone Complained That Dixie Carter Would See Him Naked
Raven: “True, I am a nudist.”
HTM: Hates it when women or families come into wrestling locker rooms. If you can’t handle male wrestler nudity, stay out of a wrestling locker room.

#34 Steve Austin Had Heat With Raven Because He Walked Around Naked In Front Of Debra And He Thought Raven Was Showing Off In Front Of His Wife
Raven: True but it was unintentional. But even funnier than that was the time he worked a 3PW show and gang bang porn star/owner Jasmine St. Claire got mad at him for being naked in front of her which he thinks is hilarious since she fucked hundreds of men in one day.
HTM: He also worked a show with Jasmine and was with Virgil when Jasmine came in the locker room and he was uncomfortable getting naked in front of her until Honky explained to him who she was.

#35 JBL Tied Up A Wrestler In The Locker Room And Threatened To Rape Him As He Cried As The Locker Room Laughed
Raven: True and the wrestler was Brian Christopher.
HTM: Confirms it was indeed Brian Christopher, but wishes JBL did it to Jerry Lawler.

#36 David Flair Quit IWA Puerto Rico Because Victor Quiones Broke Into His Room And Jerked Off In His Face
HTM & Raven: Unsure.
Rob Feinstein: Thinks it’s true because Ric Flair sought out Victor for a fight when the WWE had a show in Puerto Rico.

#37 Brian Knobbs Was Fined For Farting Near Miss Elizabeth
HTM: True, he was fined $7,000 when Savage flipped out about it. Knobbs didn’t know Savage and Liz were behind him in an airport when he farted on her, making it the most expensive fart ever.

#38 Chris Jericho Beat Up Bill Goldberg In A Backstage Shoot Fight
Raven: True. Goldberg jumped Jericho because he was pissed about something Jericho said about him in a promo and Jericho kept wrestling him to the ground which killed Goldberg’s bad ass status backstage since Jericho isn’t a bad ass and is much smaller than Goldberg.

Darryl The Hitman - January 17, 2008 06:47 AM (GMT)
I moved this over here and pinned it so I decided to bump it for those who have never yet read the list referenced in the first post.

chadabryant - March 1, 2012 05:57 AM (GMT)
The original "sleaze thread" started at DVDVR, and got to a point where people were just making shit up out of nothing. This is why we have the infamous "Randy Savage screwed Stephanie McMahon when she was 14" rumour that just won't go away.

Darryl The Hitman - March 1, 2012 06:00 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I doubt most of them are true but they make for hilarious reading.

Darryl The Hitman - February 23, 2014 04:05 PM (GMT)
Meng: Stories of the Scariest Man in the History of Wrestling
Related: Entertainment, Sports, wcw, wrestling, wwf

By Rob Fee Feb 19, 2014

It's one thing to be a popular professional wrestler in the ring. You have T-Shirts printed up with your catch phrase on them and action figures that simulate your finishing move. You're loved by the fans and everyone knows your name. It's another thing to have the respect of your peers.

Some of the most popular wrestlers were considered soft by others in the locker room. There are numerous stories of altercations that caused guys to immediately become respected, but there's one man that stands above all the rest. He was considered the most terrifying man in the sport and was feared by even the toughest wrestlers.

His name is Meng and the tales of him have become those of Chuck Norris jokes. No one knows for sure which stories are true and which ones have been embellished. One thing we know for sure is that no one gets that much respect without having pulled off some truly unbelievable acts. Here are the stories from other wrestlers about the scariest man in the history of wrestling. This is the legend of Meng (aka Tonga, Haku).

The Bite
Kevin Sullivan was a wrestler/booker in WCW and traveled with Meng quite often when they were on the road. He told a story to WWE Classics about the time the duo went to a tavern to grab a few beers before heading to their hotel. According to Sullivan, it was obvious that he and Meng weren't locals, so when they walked into the bar, a guy playing pool called Meng a horrible, derogatory word.

"The next thing I know is that Meng goozles the guy like Mr. Spock," Sullivan said. "It was fast and furious. He then grabbed another guy who tried to get involved and knocked him unconscious."

After that, things got even crazier. "Meng bit through the guy's shirt like a wolf, bit a chunk out of the guy's back, then spit it on the floor," he said. "I said, 'It's time to go.' "

Sullivan said that as they drove from the bar he saw police cars pulling into the parking lot, but authorities didn't pursue them and no charges were ever filed.

The Airport Incident
In an interview with James Guttman of World Wrestling Insanity, Meng discussed how he wrestled to support his family and not for the fame or popularity. That's why he took particular offense when anyone called wrestling fake.

"When I walk in and you tell me it's fake, I'll show you how fake the business is. Whether I take your teeth out or take your eyeballs off or whatever it was in those days. Maybe they're going to kick my butt around, but watch it - I'm coming back and finding you. But those were those days. I'm glad nobody picked up a gun and shot my ass. But in those days, that's how it was, James. It's my love for the business."

He then confirmed that one of the most outrageous tales about him was indeed true.

"Yeah. It was in Baltimore Airport. There was a hotel there. We were staying at another hotel - the Marriot or something. There was another hotel there, though. It was hopping at the time. The music was playing and it was packed. It was during the week I believe. Me and Siva Afi went over and there were lots of babyfaces there at the bar. So we went and sat in the other corner away from them. When they were ready to close, we had a few drinks, and on our way out there were five guys just sitting there. Of course, the same thing came out. The "fake" stuff. "Hey, are you guys with those guys - wrestlers? The fake wrestlers on TV?" You know. I said, "Yeah. I'll show you." And I reached over without thinking - there are four other guys there (laughs) - grabbed his face, and bit his nose off. Then the fight started. Me and Siva kind of cleaned house there and left. I'll never forget it (laughs)."

Perry Saturn
During his YouShoot Interview, Perry Saturn was asked about his time in WCW and the toughness of the guys backstage. He was given the followng list of the guys with the strongest reputations of being tough and asked who would win a fight between them all.

The Barbarian
Scott Norton
Jim Duggan
Fit Finaly
Scott Steiner
Rick Steiner

He responded "Tonga. Nobody else would stand a chance. Not even a question. He could kill everyone without blinking and there is nothing anyone could do about it"

Ted DiBiase
The Million Dollar Man said that one time they were in a rough part of St. Louis for a show. Everyone had been drinking and a large fight broke out, which resulted in the police showing up. Meng had a few drinks, but saw the fight break out so he started trying to break it up. In the process, police thought he was part of the fight and maced him then handcuffed him. He said that Meng was cuffed behind his back, looked at the police, and snapped the handcuffs.

Bobby Heenan
In a shoot interview, Heenan talked extensively about Meng and referred to him as the toughest man (not just wrestler) he's ever met in his life. The craziest story he shared was in regards to a bar fight where he claimed Meng "took his two fingers on his right hand, his index finger and trigger finger, and he reached into the guy's mouth and he broke off the guy's bottom teeth." Heenan said that if he hadn't been there and seen it himself, he wouldn't believe it. After all the other stories that have been confirmed, it doesn't seem that unbelievable at all. Heenan was also close friends with Andre the Giant and claimed that the only two men in the word that Andre feared were Meng and Harley Race.

Rick Steiner
The Steiner Brothers were known for being tough guys, so when a man is feared by two of the hardest guys in the sport, you know they've seen some crazy things. In an interview, Steiner talked about the time Meng fought off eight police officers. "They shot him with mace and he closed his eyes and sucked it in. He just opened his mouth and took a deep breath. I mean some of the stuff he did was like, 'What the hell?' Scotty and I always thought we were tough guys but that was before we met Meng."

Arn Anderson
In his biography, "Arn Anderson: 4 Ever" Anderson claims that there are three types of men in the world. There are tough men, there are wrestler-tough men, and then there's Meng. He was in a completely different category than anyone else on the planet. Anderson recalls one instance where a large cowboy was arguing with Meng and he pushed the cowboy through two different sets of doors using only one hand.

Brutus Beefcake
One of the most famous Meng stories happened during his time as Haku in the WWF. Brutus Beefcake had gone to management and complained that Meng slapped him too hard during their match. When Meng found out he walked straight to Beefcake's locker room and grabbed him out of the shower. He started choking him and lifted him two feet in the air while everyone else looked on because they were too scared to step in and break it up. Eventually Hulk Hogan came in and talked Meng down.

Eric Bischoff
There are so many stories about Meng fighting with other wrestlers, but that doesn't mean management wasn't just as scared of him. Former head of WCW, Eric Bischoff has said numerous times that Meng was never fired from WCW because no one was brave enough to do it. On one particular day, Bischoff and Greg Gagne walked into the locker room and interrupted a conversation between Meng and Chris Candido, Chris Jericho, and Tammy Sytch. Meng immediately looked at the pair of execs and said, "Hey! Apologize to my friends. I'm talking to them." According to Candido, the entire room went silent and everyone just froze. It was then that he realized the stories about Meng weren't just legends. Bischoff and Gagne apologized to them and waited for the conversation to finish before speaking with Meng.

Jesse Barr
On a trip to Puerto Rico, Meng was walking with fellow wrestler Jesse Barr when Barr decided to kick dirt onto a man who was digging ditches. Meng was upset by it and told Barr he shouldn't have done it. Barr decided to get in Meng's face and argue with him, which turned out to be a bad idea. Meng grabbed him and popped his eyeball out of socket. Some wrestlers claimed he completely tore it out, but Meng said that wasn't true. Barr ended up getting fired for the incident.

Kevin Sullivan
During Kevin Sullivan's numerous shoot interviews, he's spoken extensively on his time working with Meng. He claims that on one occasion when Sullivan was a booker in WCW, he asked Meng to do something that wasn't major, but it wasn't completely the right thing to do. He said that Meng got a little upset and it was most scared he's ever been in his entire life, despite Meng not being that angry.

Sullivan also used Meng to his advantage. Sullivan had to inform a few guys that they would be losing an upcoming match. They wrestlers became upset and told Sullivan they refused to do the job. Sullivan told them that, instead of arguing, he would just go get Meng and have him take care of the situation. They guys immediately agreed to lose their matches if he promised not to go get Meng.

Sting and Meng in the ring

Jake Roberts
Jake "The Snake" may have said it best during one of his shoot interviews: "If I had a gun and was sitting inside a tank with one shell left and Meng is 300 yards away, he's mine, right? Well the first thing I'm going to do is jump out of the tank and shoot myself because I don't want to wound that son of a bitch and have him pissed off at me."

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